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« on: January 26, 2009, 09:49:18 PM »

Alright, so Island Defense is my favorite game EVER on WarCraft. Although recently it SUCKS DICK. I will now go through and explain why no one should ever play Island Defense again until I make it my FUCKING self on StarCraft II.

Alright, reason #1. Fucking noobs:
Noobs suck dick for one reason and one reason only. This reason is: They exist. Noobs are GENERALLY not a problem for me in Island Defense as I am FUCKING epic. I don't know if any of you guys out there play Island Defense, but if you do you will know what I'm talking about. Ever since fucking Pandamine took this shit over Island defense has gone STRAIGHT downhill. NOOBS ARE EVERYWHERE because of his 8 million versions. This brings me to--->

Reason #2. Pandamine:
Pandamine is the #1 cause for Island Defense sucking dick, in my opinion. Yes, the man did bring the map back from its unedited state after a little while, but he is ruining it. Pandamine decides that no update deserves a fucking number. We have been on version 2.8.5(letter) for almost a year now. Just the fact that there are three numbers pisses me off. It should be like this:

The way versions should be classified.

Code:
Rule #1. Only two numbers maximum. (unless you are at version 10+)
Rule #2. Letters are only for super fast edits.
     Break off of rule #2. - Super fast edits as in "Oh, I just released version 2.7 yesterday, but there's a huge bug. Let's now have version 2.7B. Not a, B! Use a fucking B!
Rule #3. If the edit takes more than three days, the number after the period goes up by one.
Rule #4. The number before the period increases either after: A. A HUGE change is made to the map from previous version to this one. or B. You have hit version X.9 and have nowhere else to go but either add a number, or go up one.


Reason #3. Pandamine (Continued):
Pandamine decided that the map should have a builder named after him or some other person. BAD idea for a few reasons. #1. Yacapo (the FIRST editor/ Original Creator) has NOTHING named after himself in the map. and #2. The only things that have names are people that helped Yacapo edit the map. The things they have are CRITTERS.

Reason #4. Pandamine (Yes, again):
Pandamine SUCKS at JASS. Period. Took him like 3 months to do nothing more than add a changing experience table based on the number of builders in a game. I HONESTLY could do that in maybe 2 hours using GUI and it would look just as pretty. -.- Fucking dumbass.

Reason #5. Pandamine vs Darox:
Alright, so this has been a VERY heavy topic on the TWO Island Defense websites. Darox, one of the original editors, has seen Panda's versions, and been QUITE disappointed in them. Darox decided that he would come back and help Panda to create a better map. Of course since Panda is an idiot (As we all now know), Darox and him could not agree on ANYTHING and refused to work together on the map. Darox is a much more skilled editor, and I personally believe he has MUCH more of a rite to edit the map than Panda does.

Reason #6. There are now TWO fucking maps, and TWO fucking websites:
Do you know how annoying that shit is? Now I have fucking THREE forums I have to check up on. I have 0 posts on those two, because they're both just straight DUMB. Both of the maps are almost EXACTLY the same. Darox's (2.8.6) has a Draenei builders, whereas Panda's (2.8.5i... Fucking I! wtf!?) has a Satyr limit, and "Alpha Testers Only" Panda and Puppeteer builders.

Reason #7. US East:
I live in Los Angeles, California, so I play on US West. I always hear about how East is SOOO much better for Island Defense because of the legendary Kyleep and Murs. I get IP banned from West because I couldn't get a CD key for my fucking GHost Bot (Dumb move by me), so I decide to play on East until it goes away. It's AWFUL. Yes they have Kyleep and Murs, but they play DotA... All the time. East also has something West does not have. ---> Stupid mother fucking dumb ass POSERS trying to play Island Defense. These are the people who join your "Super Pros ONLY!" games, and sit on the left side of gold mound as a Morphling in Builder form harvesting a cool 8-9 squares away from a tree... With no walls... They piss me off.

Reason #8. Murs and Kyleep:
Alright, so these two are supposedly the BEST Island Defense players to ever live. I HIGHLY fucking doubt it. Back before Murs changed his name, he was "Commander_Baka" on US West/East. He was AWFUL... I played with him as Titan and as builder. I beat the ever living SHIT out of him EVERY game... I went to his clan (Name escapes me at the moment) and started yelling at him for sucking so much dick (again, probably a dumb move). Everyone in the clan is all like "You don't know wth you're saying. Baka is the BEST!" MY FUCKING ASS! This kid sucked sooo much cock it was ridiculous. Yes, after time we all get better, and he has. He is a much better titan than I am now. This is mostly because I host, and never have to play Titan. Also, since I'm pretty much the best player on West (Don't criticize me, I'm serious) I fuck around a LOT in my games.
Kyleep is probably pretty good. I don't know for sure though. I have never played a game with him, but I would really enjoy to. SO yeah. Not much to say about him. Murs really grinds my gears though.

Reason #8. Stupid People:
Yes this is sort of reminiscent of Reason 1, but at the same time very different. By stupid people, I mean a few things. Firstly, I mean people that decide that pinging has no value. You know you've played the games where you have done it too (I know I have lol) but still. It's annoying, and I believe it needs to stop. Secondly, I mean Satyrs. EVERYONE wants them, but everyone sucks with it. I will touch more on this in Reason 9 or 10. Thirdly, I mean people that wall poorly, and then disagree/yell at you when you try to help them. I've seen people put 2-3 walls and then tower. It's ridiculous, and it upsets me. Especially when that bullshit happens in my "Super Pro ONLY" games. Usually I go about things in a decently nice way. I ping the base, and say "You wall poorly." (Like I said, decently nice) They generally respond with "stfu" or "Don't tell me how to play you stupid noob". Or, they just decide to not respond. Pisses me off. This also leads me to my next reason.

Reason #9. People that suck, but think they are the FUCKING SHIT.
Like I had said in my last Reason, people that suck but think they are amazing are super annoying. They base [decently] and then they sit around. I generally try to pick out of the 2nd tavern, (When I don't random) as those builders are more entertaining to me. I end up with mag or Demon and I decide that I will go help these retards. I start to kill their walls and towers to make the shit better, and they get all pissed off, ban me, and rage quit.

Reason #10. Satyrs:
Just in general, Satyrs are the gayest thing to have ever hit Island Defense. Yes, they're fun, but they're BAD. Everyone sucks at Satyr. I have seen ONE, count it, ONE, person aside from myself that can play Satyr and not suck a giant black dick at it. It ISN'T that difficult. I have honestly started to pick Satyr in these versions just so that no one else can. I don't like it that much because it's boring. You can't do shit with a Satyr. I generally gold the fuck outta the titan for the first 15-20 minutes. Grab some upgrades, and then start stalking his retard ass. Everyone calls me a noob when I follow him, but I end up making more gold and lumber from doing it. idk. It's dumb. In my version, NO SATYR! I love the concept of him though. [Hit titan, BAM! You've got gold!]

Reason #10. Titans:
90% of the people that play Titan suck dick at it. They know this too, so they stop trying after their first failed attempt. Personally, I -exp the titan almost every game at like 20 minutes, and get called a noob for it. If I'm not host, I feed the shit out of them. If they suck, I want a decent challenge. People need to stop giving bad Titans so much shit. Yes, it's annoying, but NO ONE can get better if they get pissed off all the time. Also, no one wants to play a game with 10 other whiney ass bitches that can't accept the fact that you're nice enough to even fucking try to play Titan. Now, I do believe that they shouldn't be joining "Super Pro" games to play Titan if they suck. That's dumb. The other thing I hate about the Titan, is the people that play them, and start bitching because "This titan sucks DICK". All titans are about the same. They all have 5 skills with the same premise. Then an ultimate which is different between each Titan. If someone is "Good" with one titan, they are "Decent+" with every other one. The only two with exceptions are Granticles and Breezerious. Granticles has the biggest load of shit nuke (Fuck you Pandamine!). Breezerious has no slow poison. This makes NO sense. Slow poison is one of the only things that lets Titans do well. [Slow poison in middle of mound = kill 85% of the time].
Alright, since I do not want to get into a Reason 11, I have decided to add Minions to this reason. Minions are dumb. Just straight up, they are dumb. I believe that minion control should go DIRECTLY to the Titan for a few reasons. My first reason is that 90% of the Titans I see punish their kills anyway. If not all of them, the first minion is almost ALWAYS punished for the reason of guarding the mine. My second reason is that minions aren't that helpful for some Titans. Yes, there are some where minions are super awesome, like Granticles and Demonicus, but on Titans like Breezerious or Moltenious. (I probably spelt those wrong, but I don't care. lol) The final reason is that minions played by stupid people steal feed. There is always that one minion that decides that they are important. Guess what Mr. Minion... You AREN'T! You're not important, so stop taking his fucking fruit trees. Kicking is a wonderful thing. {I don't know about you guys, but when I kill someone that says, "Red, he punished! Make him give it back!" [or something along those lines. Something that shows you that Red knows the kid you have just killed trying to gold when you CLEARLY windwalked in center. (freaking stupid people)] I kick the shit out of him. I type that stuff so fast you'd think it wasn't even possible. BAM! "-kick [every color of anyone I've killed]" Just so that when Red starts lagging a little bit and I know he's going out for that custom kick, he's fucking up the ENTIRE game. I blame him and his dumbass friend. If the friend didn't suck, nothing would have happened.} Last reason is minion suiciding. No, it doesn't happen as often as it used to, but it still does, and it's a bitch when it does. There's also always that butt hurt minion that decides to trap you in when you're making that last blow on a strong base so you die. You never realize it until it's too late. Even if you have the ankh, you're boned. There's nothing you can do once it's hit "That time". All in all, Minion Control ---> Titan. It should up to the titan (from the second the kill happens) if the player gets to keep it.

Hey, if you want, this is the link for where I put this originally. Have fun! http://forum.wc3edit.net/bitch-bitch-bitch-f35/the-10-official-reasons-island-defense-sucks-d-ck-offensiv-t9236.html
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« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2009, 09:57:11 PM »

You're pretty awesome.
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Yesterday my girlfriend pissed me off so I punched her.  Why did she piss me off so much?  She got snippy and was all like "You're a pedophile" so I got pissed and was like "Bitch, don't call me that, and how the hell do you even know that word?  You're only 8."

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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2009, 10:03:10 PM »

Digging the sarcasm bro. =P

I'm just pointing out shit that bugs me about this game. Yes, I know that it's a non-profit thing, and you have better shit to do. I understand that. lol

Honestly, I'm surprised this didn't get locked and removed in 30 seconds. On this site or Panda's.
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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2009, 10:28:12 PM »

More seriously:

#1: Yeah, this is one of the inherent flaws in Island Defense, or in any game where the teams are stacked 10vs1. In order to have any pretence of balance the 1 must be as strong as the 10, but the difference is 10 players need to try and work together and suffer greatly from any weak links.

#2: Going up to .5i was really dumb. Usually I only updated the number if a new builder/titan came out or several key changes were made. We never got past a C.

#3: I thought he shot himself in the foot with this one. That was just a really dumb ego move there.

#4: I don't know about JASS. He seems competent at that. I'm more worried about how much he knows about the workings of the object editor. When I saw he used fucking crow form for the catapult immobilization I cringed.

#5: When I came back for .6, I didn't even bother trying to work with Panda. The changes he had made plus all his views I had seen on the forums really turned me off. I think him suggesting that the gold mine being able to pick up bones wasn't a bug was the turning point.

#6: Yeah, it sucks, but there was no way in hell I was going to set up on a little corner of Panda's site.

#7: I'm indifferent. I only think Euro pubbies are truely bad, because the average euro custom game pubby makes up totally fucking insane scrub rules because of their lack of ability.

#8a: I laughed a lot while reading this. Kyleep is pretty good.

#8b: This is what the public Bnet custom game scene has largely been reduced to.

#9: See #8b.

#10a: I'm slightly biased here, because I created Satyr, but I have to agree with you. Satyr is a race that will punish you heavily for sucking, and people don't seem to realize this. My biggest regret is installing the Satyr cap which has been leeched into Wall.up versions, because this has elevated it in the eyes of pub scrubs as a 'super builder'. Without that, I think most of the public would quickly dismiss it as a worthless builder, like mag.

#10b: Again, it's part of the inherent flaw of the 10vs1 setup. Any competent titan can absolutely dominate any pub game without too much practise, but it's the fear of having to play by yourself vs 10 other players, as well as having a low chance of randomly getting the titan in any given game. Not to mention as you said before, most of the time minions are idiots who quickly leave and/or get punished, and those who don't often are trying to get the titan killed, so it further hurts desire to play titan and prevents them from learning how.

I must disagree with you on Granticles and Breezerious though, at least in 2.8.6, with Granticles new nuke. Breezerious, with his AoE disable nuke and AoE slow/truesight (Which has the same power as slow poison, but ranged and also improves the speed of the titan) is a champion builder killer. I would rate him as one of the top builder killers up there with Glacious.

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I wasn't being sarcastic nor do I intend to lock this topic. I'm much more relaxed on this forum, you can yell about how bad the map is to your hearts content. As far as complaints go, this is one of the better ones.

I am surprised it hasn't been locked on Wall.up's site though, mods must be asleep.
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Yesterday my girlfriend pissed me off so I punched her.  Why did she piss me off so much?  She got snippy and was all like "You're a pedophile" so I got pissed and was like "Bitch, don't call me that, and how the hell do you even know that word?  You're only 8."

P.S.  Darox rocks.
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2009, 10:45:31 PM »

I have to say, the fact that darox would reply to that so calmly and reasonably is really impressive. Raises my respect for him. And that he didn't lock it. That shows maturity not really seen in Warcraft. 
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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2009, 10:51:21 PM »

I just want to get a few things out here.

1. I love you. Lol no homo, but seriously. I am excited as hell for you to be back. I honestly don't like Panda, he's a douche. Haha
2. This was all basically me letting out the anger of playing 15+ STRAIGHT terrible games on east.
3. The murs/kyleep thing- again, anger. Murs is pretty damned good lol. Still have yet to see this Kyleep kid play though. Umm... I honestly do feel that, at one point, I was better than murs. Haha (zero recognition sadly)
4. They have actually all been yelling at me lol. I haven't been able to reply though since by iPod has some issues loggin into their site.
5. Yeah, again, the ego trip you mentioned. I didn't look back to see exactly what hat referenced, but I'm pretty sure I know. Lol. It was probably a little stupid, but I do feel I am one of the best players on West...
6. These are in no particular order by the way. Lol.
7. Ummm thank you for saying this is the best complaint you'd seen haha. Again, just my rant over the course of a day-ish.

8. Do you happen to have AIM or MSN or something? Haha. I hate typing on my iPod, and yeah. Lol
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2009, 10:52:36 PM »

I think many players like to play satyr because
1) exciting
2) challenging
3) think satyr can be god if you get enough gold thus the drive to try to reach that point and constantly harrass titan
4) lazy at building bases (which I find as a general case where some people just abhore being a baser.
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2009, 10:56:13 PM »

At the risk of being inundated with add requests, my MSN contact is mertook@hotmail.com

I only talk to one person on it regularly, so don't expect me to be very verbose, although it's usually online, even if I might be away/in a game.
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Yesterday my girlfriend pissed me off so I punched her.  Why did she piss me off so much?  She got snippy and was all like "You're a pedophile" so I got pissed and was like "Bitch, don't call me that, and how the hell do you even know that word?  You're only 8."

P.S.  Darox rocks.
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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2009, 11:03:18 PM »

I love this person. I'm glad someone is working on Id for SCII.
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2009, 11:27:32 PM »

Are you talking about me? Lol

If so, glad to see I have some support. From some people hat aren't total phad freaks (by that I mean all the people at Panda's site).

If you didn't mean me, haha, oopsies. =P
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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2009, 12:06:54 AM »



aHahahahAHh you made my day. keep it up.
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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2009, 12:09:36 AM »

Go yell at me on Panda's site.
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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2009, 01:14:44 AM »

Yea I am talking to you.
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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2009, 04:35:26 AM »

I came into this expecting the usual moronic rant, but while voiced a little differently than i might put it, I actually agree with most of it.  More detailed response later.
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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2009, 01:08:56 PM »

I stopped reading at "I AM FUCKING EPIC" because I knew I wouldn't be able to comprehend your ownage.
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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2009, 02:46:30 PM »

#3 was one hell of a bad idea. I love how it's the Draenei builder and not the Darox builder.
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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2009, 03:27:47 PM »

If you are talking about when Commander_Baka was in clan cid. He was the most fucked up little child I had ever seen. He was horrible at island defense and simply chose/did whatever yacapo did. Whether it was playing id or dota, or picking a certain builder. He'd follow the guy around if he was his fag tail. Yacapo never really spoke unless it was absolutely necessary. If someone called him a fuckface he'd simply ignore. On the other hand Baka would simply spill the shit out of his luggs onto you, until you cried to yourself about the abomination you had just had to listen to. He'd spam id.net and when other people posted a few spam, he'd flame them with "You post NOTHING useful and every single post of yours is USELESS". After a year I reached 500 posts, by posting around 10 posts a week. And I usually spent no less than an HOUR each week doing them. Out of my 500 posts, I'd say 15 weren't necessary. Out of his 2000 posts or w/e he had about half of it spam in the staff forums. The other half was out in the public forums where he'd say shit like "suck my dick" or simply copy off of chip. Simply put he needs to grow up.

#3 was one hell of a bad idea. I love how it's the Draenei builder and not the Darox builder.
I tell that to people every day.

I came into this expecting the usual moronic rant, but while voiced a little differently than i might put it, I actually agree with most of it.  More detailed response later.
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« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2009, 05:55:12 PM »

DUDE HOLY FUCK YOU ARE GODLY!

I SUPPORT!

Great argument, seems like you've been around for a while.
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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2009, 06:08:53 PM »

Actually, im a Pro Satyr compared to most players. Im usually the last survivor and I use Murs'(or was it Kyleep's) peon build technique combined with my own from sheep tag to avoid death. Compared to most Satyr players, im one of the only Pros and there are no average Satyr players now because theres either a "ZOMG IM SAT LOLOLOLOLOLOL" person or a "Okay blue Den block titan right now before he kills our only baser" im the second one with the strategy. Tell me who you are
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« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2009, 07:13:33 PM »

I love this person. I'm glad someone is working on Id for SCII.

Woot, I feel important. lol

I stopped reading at "I AM FUCKING EPIC" because I knew I wouldn't be able to comprehend your ownage.

Not really appreciating the sarcasm -.-. Thanks though. Even through this, you are contributing to my cause. <3
DUDE HOLY FUCK YOU ARE GODLY!

I SUPPORT!

Great argument, seems like you've been around for a while.

Yet again, Woot! I feel important. Haha yeah, I've been playing for a while. Back since one version before Nature. I think, lol. I just remember him coming in and making his workers off of himself. That was interesting by the way. haha
If you are talking about when Commander_Baka was in clan cid. He was the most fucked up little child I had ever seen. He was horrible at island defense and simply chose/did whatever yacapo did. Whether it was playing id or dota, or picking a certain builder. He'd follow the guy around if he was his fag tail. Yacapo never really spoke unless it was absolutely necessary. If someone called him a fuckface he'd simply ignore. On the other hand Baka would simply spill the shit out of his lugs onto you, until you cried to yourself about the abomination you had just had to listen to. He'd spam id.net and when other people posted a few spam, he'd flame them with "You post NOTHING useful and every single post of yours is USELESS". After a year I reached 500 posts, by posting around 10 posts a week. And I usually spent no less than an HOUR each week doing them. Out of my 500 posts, I'd say 15 weren't necessary. Out of his 2000 posts or w/e he had about half of it spam in the staff forums. The other half was out in the public forums where he'd say shit like "suck my dick" or simply copy off of chip. Simply put he needs to grow up.

#3 was one hell of a bad idea. I love how it's the Draenei builder and not the Darox builder.
I tell that to people every day.

I came into this expecting the usual moronic rant, but while voiced a little differently than i might put it, I actually agree with most of it.  More detailed response later.
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To the CID part, I don't know. I guess it must have been then.
To the Draenei builder part, that's about the Panda having the panda builder right? If so, yeah... It's pretty fuckin ridiculous. =/
To the crying picture with the "hahahahahaaha" and the "You made my day" parts. sarcasm? Not diggin the sarcasm guys. If you're serious though, Thank you. =D

Actually, im a Pro Satyr compared to most players. Im usually the last survivor and I use Murs'(or was it Kyleep's) peon build technique combined with my own from sheep tag to avoid death. Compared to most Satyr players, im one of the only Pros and there are no average Satyr players now because theres either a "ZOMG IM SAT LOLOLOLOLOLOL" person or a "Okay blue Den block titan right now before he kills our only baser" im the second one with the strategy. Tell me who you are

Last one to respond to, yay!
I would agree and say I'm more of the second one. Although at first (after the getting yelled at lol) I'm always like "Sweet, Satyr bitches!" lol. =)
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« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2009, 12:12:14 PM »

If you are talking about when Commander_Baka was in clan cid. He was the most fucked up little child I had ever seen. He was horrible at island defense and simply chose/did whatever yacapo did. Whether it was playing id or dota, or picking a certain builder. He'd follow the guy around if he was his fag tail. Yacapo never really spoke unless it was absolutely necessary. If someone called him a fuckface he'd simply ignore. On the other hand Baka would simply spill the shit out of his luggs onto you, until you cried to yourself about the abomination you had just had to listen to. He'd spam id.net and when other people posted a few spam, he'd flame them with "You post NOTHING useful and every single post of yours is USELESS". After a year I reached 500 posts, by posting around 10 posts a week. And I usually spent no less than an HOUR each week doing them. Out of my 500 posts, I'd say 15 weren't necessary. Out of his 2000 posts or w/e he had about half of it spam in the staff forums. The other half was out in the public forums where he'd say shit like "suck my dick" or simply copy off of chip. Simply put he needs to grow up.

#3 was one hell of a bad idea. I love how it's the Draenei builder and not the Darox builder.
I tell that to people every day.

I came into this expecting the usual moronic rant, but while voiced a little differently than i might put it, I actually agree with most of it.  More detailed response later.
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aHahahahAHh you made my day. keep it up.

Same way with me.




great post  Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2009, 03:17:22 PM »

I've played with you god and your really not that good your average and your are most certainly not better than kyleep so shut up...
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« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2009, 03:12:28 PM »

in response to the reply from darox about sat:

i totally agree.  most people love .5i, but when i ask them why the only response i can ever get is "ZOMG ONLY ONE SAT WAY BETTER".  when i bring up panda's bad mapmaking skills or the fact that he can't balance ogre/troll for shit they only say things about sat.  personally i hate godmode sat, since usually if they are bad sats ruin the game in panda's version, or if they are good they ruin the game in the builders' favor.  personally i think that what you did to sat really helped balance, but the general island defense community seems to think that:
a) you made the game bad because there are too many sats
b) you ruined sat by giving him a 4 sec fade time
c) sat's new plunder is bad cuz you can't be a super builder
d) sat is OP cuz he starts with blur/dash

personally i really think that until people actually try 2.8.6 they won't appreciate it, but until then, i love it and i thank you for doing a good job on it, especially since panda seems to not know how to balance at all (lol new troll)
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« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2009, 03:48:07 PM »

when i bring up panda's bad mapmaking skills or the fact that he can't balance ogre/troll for shit they only say things about sat.

bad mapmaking skills? i'd like to see you do better.
and troll has already been balanced out by lowering the food cost, etc etc, idiot.

oh and one more thing:
how is ogre imbalanced? because of the catapult bugs?
every single version has bugs, and i'm pretty sure that one's been/being fixed.

flame moar please.
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« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2009, 03:52:29 PM »

when i bring up panda's bad mapmaking skills or the fact that he can't balance ogre/troll for shit they only say things about sat.

bad mapmaking skills? i'd like to see you do better.
and troll has already been balanced out by lowering the food cost, etc etc, idiot.

oh and one more thing:
how is ogre imbalanced? because of the catapult bugs?
every single version has bugs, and i'm pretty sure that one's been/being fixed.

flame moar please.
OK, you're a cocky annoying kid who isn't old enough to even buy wc3 in most countries butt out and go have a real childhood.
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you can rape the world and be creative now
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