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Metall-Drago
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« on: May 26, 2012, 01:44:11 PM »

Reduce dmg on glacis poison imho its more dmg on poison than on hit dmg trolololo
joke aside, its too strong like 42 dmg over 6 seconds just for the poison passive
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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2012, 03:30:39 PM »

I'm not sure it really needs changed. Glac uses strong slows to take out builders. If anything, I'd say rework him so his siege is weaker but his nuke/slow is stronger. That's probably not even needed either.
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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2012, 04:46:59 PM »

his nuke is strong and his poison aswell but he has no healing minis why would u nerf his siege even more... troll

his nuke is fine and fits him but with nuke + his lesser slow poison he just doesnt need that tons of dmg on poison aswell, dont remove it but reduce it
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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2012, 11:56:36 PM »

Glacious has:
Lesser Damage nuke (but it slows)
Less slowing "slow poison" (but it damages)
Seems balanced to me.
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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2012, 12:13:07 AM »

Glacious's slow poison is definitely the most slowing.
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« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2012, 01:00:20 AM »

Glacious's slow poison is definitely the most slowing.
Actually glac's passive slow poison isn't very good, that's why his nuke compensates for it. Glac imho is a really bad sieger because his minions don't have chain heal and his instant heal doesn't do as much as molt, so he is nerfed enough as he is.

When you compare glac with breeze, breeze is actually better in every way. Only good thing about him is that his minions are really tank after avatar.

Reasons:
1) Breeze has better re-wall prevention (cyclone nuke -> ww nuke with minions)
2) Better nuke (Bigger aoe, cyclone)
3) Better scout skill
4) Better sieging skills (Bigger aoe tower slow+move/attack speed, aoe regen+armour+-armour, better heal)
5) Better for early minions
6) Better anti-invis revealer

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« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2012, 12:49:50 PM »

Not to mention Glacious is one of the few who is capable of killing a Draenei teleporting away. Though nukes  and physical attacks will not do any damage because of the buff that reduces all damage to 0, Glacious has the sole alternative that comes with his slow.



Say for a case, you have a +200 hp draenei carelessly relying on a gnoll tracker while golding away and you want him dead. You would normally be okay with him teleporting off the mound, but for this case, you need him dead so you can overwhelm a base that otherwise is too powerful. The gnoll however prevents any way to approach with titans and the second movement is detected, the draenei will begin teleporting. Meaning you cant nuke or approach with windwalk without him teleporting.

No other Titan will be able to kill this Dranei in named scenario, but Glacious can. By raising 10 Miniminions and having them charge at the draenei, they will be able to start pounding at him and all get atleast 1 hit in (each slow stacks with slows caused by other units).
The slow deals 60 damage over 6 seconds, so by having 10 miniminions, you get 600 damage over 6 seconds that will ignore the mana shield. And so, the 400 hp Draenei is doomed to die at the hands of a slow poison stack, something only Glacious is capable of.

Hence, Draenei's is best countered by Glacious on the field.
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« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2012, 01:26:16 PM »

his nuke is strong and his poison aswell but he has no healing minis why would u nerf his siege even more... troll

his nuke is fine and fits him but with nuke + his lesser slow poison he just doesnt need that tons of dmg on poison aswell, dont remove it but reduce it

I suggested that as a rework of glac, not as a just a nerf. Not every titan has to be used the same way. Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2012, 01:11:49 AM »

Glaci passive poision thingy is fine, no need to change it. A wallwalking builder can easy avoid it also.
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« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2012, 07:30:16 PM »

I'm still bitter about the one time I died to the poison and the fucking demonologist refused to give me a health stone.
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« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2012, 10:10:47 PM »

I died to poison as morphling in warrior form once, I was scared to go to builder form because it would halve my hp. But on the other hand, it might get rid of all buffs whilst changing form. Needs further testing/confirmation.

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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2012, 07:33:02 AM »

remove snow from glac so brem can mh again
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