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« on: February 07, 2009, 03:33:41 AM »

I just played that map and if it was legal there is just one thing i want to know. What the hell is Pandamime doing to island defense? It start to look more and more like some vampire Map made by an totaly retard.
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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2009, 04:00:57 AM »

i havnt tried it yet, but from the look of the changelog, some of the ideas are not actually too bad, but from all the complaining, it seems they were either implemented in the usual dodgey manner, or the good is just overwhelmed by the dodgey titan and builder
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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2009, 04:11:00 AM »

I love the imba 50% chance to stun attacker for 2 seconds and deal 250 damage :3

Only need like 35g to get it!
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« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2009, 04:36:37 AM »

It start to look more and more like some vampire Map made by an totaly retard.

why?
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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2009, 08:10:29 AM »

I actually like the new terrain at top left but the titan exp needs to be balanced. (at least for Voltron)

Level 16 before gp is hard to counter. (No we did not feed)
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« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2009, 08:16:50 AM »

The new terrain looks more like an Vampire Map then like an island. Island defense starts to lose the "island" feeling and becomes more and more an clone of the allready existing vampire maps. Whats next, a training area for titan//hunter, tomes of strenght and agility with 300+ strenght?
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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2009, 09:33:13 AM »

I just played that map and if it was legal there is just one thing i want to know. What the hell is Pandamime doing to island defense? It start to look more and more like some vampire Map made by an totaly retard.

wrong forum.
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« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2009, 03:42:23 PM »

The 3.0 vers fails... Its way too imbalanced and titans always win, unless its a nub.
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« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2009, 05:22:23 PM »

Actually, the reason titan pwns in this beta version (found this out from other site) is because you need to enable -fr 1000.

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« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2009, 05:23:43 PM »

The 3.0 vers fails... Its way too imbalanced and titans always win, unless its a nub.

Titan should always win, unless your a noob.
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« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2009, 05:25:22 PM »

read the post I made above you.
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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2009, 06:29:27 PM »

what does this have to do with 2.8.6?
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« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2009, 09:45:55 PM »

I really don't get why you people are crying so hard over it.
Can you not read the loadscreen?
He said it was a beta, and still has many things to fix and change. He put out the beta to see how the public would take it. Personally, I don't get why he did that anyways. Since most of you people can't even understand what he tried to do.


Also, this is Darox's version's forums. Why are you even posting it here?
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« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2009, 10:26:40 PM »

Because we love to piss people off

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« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2009, 12:19:50 AM »

I really don't get why you people are crying so hard over it.
Can you not read the loadscreen?
He said it was a beta, and still has many things to fix and change. He put out the beta to see how the public would take it. Personally, I don't get why he did that anyways. Since most of you people can't even understand what he tried to do.


Also, this is Darox's version's forums. Why are you even posting it here?
i said it was a bad idea, the same thing happenend with beta release of the panda, and that was even password protected in a BETA tavern, darox's process of beta testing seems to work much better
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« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2009, 02:26:48 AM »

To be honest I don't really mind the idea of a public beta.  However I find that so far 3.0 has so many flaws that it's more of a bug test than a true beta.  Getting any meaningful balance info outside the extraordinarily broken is going to be pretty damn hard.
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« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2009, 08:26:12 AM »

Does any1 ever read what I post?!?
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« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2009, 08:49:33 AM »

Seriously? No, i dont like u.
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« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2009, 09:05:31 AM »

I really don't care, Deleth. Anyways, try it with -fr 1000 and it's actually playable.
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« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2009, 03:28:59 PM »

I really don't care, Deleth. Anyways, try it with -fr 1000 and it's actually playable.
Doesn't fix the lumber problems and other assorted glitches that are in the version.  Again certain things are still grossly overpowered and it makes it hard to focus on the stuff thats just normally overpowered, but not as likely to get fixed due to no one noticing it until the other crap is gone.
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« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2009, 04:13:59 PM »

if you dislike panda so much, why the hell are you playing his version?
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« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2009, 07:47:52 PM »

if you dislike panda so much, why the hell are you playing his version?
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My like or dislike of panda has nothing at all to do with my like or dislike of his map.  Or at least it doesn't have to.  If i hated darox as a person I'd still be playing his version.  The attention to gameflow and the ability to fit things together in a way that feels like the quality that originally drew me to ID back when others were editing is why i prefer darox's version.  I'll still play panda's but quite frankly the beta, and yes i get that its a beta, is broken.  He can do that if he wants, i personally don't think its the smartest method, but whatever.  It'll work or it won't. 
Honestly my two biggest complaints about panda is that he doesn't like to hear shit against him and is pretty childish about it(not that that's something uncommon on bnet), and that he  doesn't make things that flow nearly as well or fit in right. The new base was ugly.  It was neat, but it was ugly.  Panda builder, in its early alpha, felt cobbled together.  It didn't feel unique or interesting.  It felt like it belonged in one of those maps that have absolutely no balance and are just someone's personal ideas of whats cool.  Dranei on the other hand was broken as hell but just felt right.  Unique, themed, interesting.  I wouldn't have had a problem with this, but when people started pointing out criticisms in his panda builder(not quite original, unbalanced(granted of course it was, alpha and all), and the arrogance thing with the name) he caved and threw a fit(or pulled a prank, whatever) and then did next to nothing about it.
Finally it seems that half the changes i find myself liking in panda's versions are either things that needed to be done anyways, or in most cases suggestions from Murs.  I have trouble finding stuff that I know is panda's idea that I actually think was a good decision.  Good for him for sticking with this and all, but i'm not going to lie and say that I like how he does it.  If he can't handle that, fine.

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« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2009, 09:00:53 PM »

what i'm saying is:
if you guys think that darox > panda in terms of map-making skills,
stick with .6.
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« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2009, 09:07:53 PM »

You know what's stupid though? I always host Darox's version and suggest to the host (if I'm not hosting) to try it. Basically, the host says to fuck off and just cks me because Panda's is less bugged.  Undecided
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« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2009, 03:19:53 PM »

*Blond moment* Nevermind
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