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« on: January 16, 2009, 02:16:22 PM »

Unit Information

Difficulty - Medium



Brood Mother
300 Hip Points and Medium Armor
Returns 10 wood per swing.
125 attack, Ranged - 100 Mana.
Orc styled building, to give the illusion of "digging" her buildings.

Brood Mother Abilities
Web - Throws a net around the target rendering it unable to move, lasts 2.5 seconds.
Cost: 50 Mana.  Cooldown: 5 Minutes.
Venom  - The Brood Mother spits her venom at the target unit, slowing movement speed by 25% for 3 seconds.  Does not stack with other abilities, overridden by any other slowing effect.
Cost: 50 Mana.  Cooldown: 3 Minutes.
Arcane Carapace - Cancels any targeted spell against the builder. Functions as spell shield.
Cost: 50 Mana.  Cooldown: 2 Minutes.
Feed - Allows the Brood Mother to sacrifice a target Spiderling or Arachnid killing the unit, granting her 10 hps regeneration for 5 seconds.
Lay Egg (Channeled) - Creates an egg in the target location.  Channeling lasts 2 seconds.



Spiderling (Worker Unit)
100 Hit Points, maximum of 10 workers.
Returns 5 wood per swing.  12 Food Cost.
Cannot be detonated, can be killed.

Egg - All units are spawned by the Brood Mothers eggs. When a unit has finished creation, the egg dies.  In effect, each egg creates one unit.
Abilities
Create Spiderling - Spawns a worker Spiderling.
Create Arachnid - Spawns a Arachnid.
Create Hunter - Spawns a Hunter.

Towers and Walls

Rock Wall - 250 Hit Points
Webbed Wall - 300 Hit Points and 15 armor - On hit, slows movement speed by 25% and attack speed by 50% for 3 seconds.


Arachnid -  Arachnids can function as towers and mobile army units, though are very weak and fragile, as such only recommended as support to a much better army based race.  Original maximum unit cap of 30.  Can be upgraded to 45 with Merchant and Advanced Research Center.  Note: Arachnids are researched and upgraded similar to catapults, requiring large base costs, however no additional wood cost for further creation.
Arachnid - 15 Piercing Damage, 450 Range, 100 Hit Points.
Vile(Enhanced) Arachnid - 25 Piercing Damage, 450 Range, 200 Hit Points, 4 Heavy Armor
Feral(Super) Arachnid - 30 Piercing Damage, 500 Range, 300 Hit Points, 4 heavy armor
Brutal(Mega) Arachnid - 40 piercing Damage, 600 Range, 300 Hit Points, 4 Heavy Armor


Hunter
130 Chaos Damage, 10 Hero armor, 850 Hit Points, 600 Mana.
Melee attack.  Blink, Syphon Mana, Avatar, Stats.

Super Towers

Heavy Cannon Tower
750 Hit Points, 20 Armor, 900 range, 200-200 damage. Gives an aura that provides +15 armor to nearby units and structures.  Cost: 90 gold, 2000 Wood, 1 Food.

Other Buildings

Den - Lumber drop off point.

Nest - Standard food increasing building.  Raises food limit by 15.  No attack.

Cave - Research Building.
Cost: 150 Wood.
Researches
Venom - The Brood Mother spits her venom at the target unit, slowing movement speed by 25% for 3 seconds.  Does not stack with other abilities, overridden by any other slowing effect.
Cost: 500 Wood
Feed - Allows the Brood Mother to sacrifice a target Spiderling or Arachnid killing the unit, granting her +10 hps regeneration for 5 seconds.
Cost: 1000 Wood
Arcane Knowledge - Increases the Brood Mothers mana by 50.
Cost: 300 wood.
Improved Arcane Knowledge - Further increases Brood Mothers mana by 50.
Cost 300 wood.
Arachnid Spawn - Allows the Brood Mother to hatch Arachnids from her eggs.  Maximum of 30 Arachnids.  Arachnids cost 1 Food.
Cost: 5000 Wood.
Vile(Enhanced) Arachnid Spawn - Upgrades Arachnid units to Vile Arachnids.
Cost: 5000 Wood.
Feral(Super) Arachnid Spawn - Upgrades Vile Arachnid units to Feral Arachnids.
Cost: 5000 Wood.
Brutal(Mega) Arachnid Spawn - Upgrades Feral Arachnids to Brutal Arachnids.
Cost: 5000 Wood.
Hunter Spawn - Allows the Brood Mother to hatch Hunters from her eggs.  Maximum of one Hunter.  Hunters cost no Food.
Cost: 800 Wood

Arcane Shield - Fully protects all Arachnid units from targeted spells in a 300 radius.  Only works on Arachnids.  These buildings allow the Arachnids to serve as towers, thus allowing the Brood Mother to base.  Effect only applies to Arachnid units.
Cost: 500 Wood.

Arcane Pit - Advanced Research Building.
Cost: 45 Gold, 500 Wood.
Strengthened Webs - Increases the hip points of walls by 200.  Requires Merchant.
Cost: 1500 wood.
Arachnid Hordes - Increases the maximum amount of Arachnids to 45.  Requires Merchant.
Advanced Hunter Research - +200 Hit Points, +200 Mana, +20 Attack damage and +60 Movement speed and the passive Paralysis ability: 15% chance to stun a target for 1.5 seconds.


Merchant - Self explanitory

Basic Information and Justifications
Unlike other builders, the Brood Mothers "towers" are 1x1 much like herself, this allows her to group many more units into a smaller area.  The damage and range of these units however are greatly reduced at all levels to compensate.  They also will not have a "root" effect.  You must use your Hold Position effectively.

Arcane Shield - This building provides an anti-magic buff in a 500 radius which ONLY applies to her arachnids.  This makes them only effective to use when basing, to prevent her Arachnids from being nukable and thus simply useless.  It allows them to function as normal towers.

Feed, Detonation loss, and Food building damage loss - The Brood Mother will not require gold to be effective.  Her basing and creation abilities however are to be user intensive.  If you wish to kill off workers or buildings for feed prevention, you must use Her, her hunter, or Spinderlings to do so.  As such, due to her having less workers than typical builders, the feed they provide will scale accordingly.

Wtf, walls with slow? - The Brood Mothers walls are much more weak and fragile than any other builder.  To compensate, instead her walls are covered with webs which slow the titan when he attacks the walls.  The 50% attack speed reduction functions in a way that despite the hp loss of walls, the titan will still spend the SAME amount of time to kill one of her lower hp walls, than another builders walls who have more hp.   In all cases, the titan will spend the same amount of time to seige her walls as other builders.

How does the Arachnid research work? - Good question.  Arachnid research will work similar to how the Ogre currently does in that you upgrade your tiers before your units.  Only instead of many small researches, there are only 4 researches in total.  The figures I went off of are based on the idea that you will be able to get over 15k wood by 20 to 25 minutes, thus getting your first 3 tiers like other builders.  Your last tier having enough wood by the 30 minute penalty or thereafter.  These researches are so high, due to the fact laying eggs does not cost wood.

Arachnid Hordes - Other basers get late game damage increases, or extra speed, or poison upgrades for more dps.  Instead, the amount of Arachnids will be increased by 15 units to provide the extra dps.
« Last Edit: January 19, 2009, 08:12:47 AM by BodyHammer » Logged

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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2009, 02:20:31 PM »

Rather than using mana, you should replace the unit with an egg of that type with negative health regeneration. It looks like a loading bar  Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2009, 06:58:53 PM »

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Venom  - Attacks slow the enemy movement speed by 25% for 2 seconds.  Does not stack with other abilities, overridden by any other slowing effect.
Cost: 50 Mana.  Cooldown: 3 Minutes.

That's a little confusing. The description makes it sound passive, but you've given it a mana cost and cooldown. Explain?

I like the concept of the builder overall, but wouldn't the titan be able to punish-spam his way out of Webbed Wall's slow effect?
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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2009, 12:25:21 PM »

Different idea.
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2009, 12:43:06 PM »

Rawr! u stole my idea! lol
look for the arachnid builder
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2009, 12:51:40 PM »

First builder suggestion on this site I've ever skimmed through, I like it.
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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2009, 05:57:40 PM »

Rawr! u stole my idea! lol
look for the arachnid builder

This is nothing like your idea. Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2009, 07:23:38 PM »

I don't think the slowing effect from the walls works when you use abbysal.

Also, this might be hard to balance in terms of damage because you can fit 4 "towers" where one tower would be.
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« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2009, 08:56:12 PM »

This suggestion gets me so hard its not even funny.

I like the slowing walls effect stuff
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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2009, 08:57:31 PM »

This suggestion gets me so hard its not even funny.

I like the slowing walls effect stuff

GAY SHAMAN!
I like the idea of having spider builders in Island defense, I could scare the titan away Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2009, 05:31:48 AM »

Currently making a few changes before creating a final thread.  Thanks for the imput guys.

I don't think the slowing effect from the walls works when you use abbysal.

Also, this might be hard to balance in terms of damage because you can fit 4 "towers" where one tower would be.

Hmm, we'll have to find a work around for abbysal. 

The damage and range can be scaled down as needed for balance, which will also support the idea that the army units should only be used to support others armies, not function as their own.


That's a little confusing. The description makes it sound passive, but you've given it a mana cost and cooldown. Explain?

I like the concept of the builder overall, but wouldn't the titan be able to punish-spam his way out of Webbed Wall's slow effect?

Not passive, just an activated ability.

Ideally the titan can punish off the walls slowing effect, however it takes effect every single time he attacks a wall, he would end up wasting as much, if not more of his time punishing than attacking.
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