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[Zen1400]

Which is all percent wise, vs sf who has an AoE nuke which could kill if not severly damage all the images to let you find the real one, and the nuke.

[Revengez]

Which is all percent wise, vs sf who has an AoE nuke which could kill if not severly damage all the images to let you find the real one, and the nuke.

I agree with that but SF would need to ult first thing or else he'd be outta mana so quick.

[Zen1400]

Its still percent based besides the lance and ww, so its just luck if you get those 8 images or not.

[Revengez]

Its still percent based besides the lance and ww, so its just luck if you get those 8 images or not.

Manta makes an auto 3, and i think it's like 40-50% to form one so 40x3=120% chance (kinda) to make a clone and which every clone you get your chance multiplies so ya know, it's not hard to get that amount of clones.

[Zen1400]

Last time I checked manta didnt work with pl like thtlat, but haven't played pl in awhile, besides that its much lower percent chance than that.

25% chance at max lvl and a limit of 5 images.

[Revengez]

Last time I checked manta didnt work with pl like thtlat, but haven't played pl in awhile, besides that its much lower percent chance than that.

25% chance at max lvl and a limit of 5 images.

It's 5 now? Haven't played him in a while but still whats 5x51? 255 mana per swing... And i think it's 8 not so sure, but confident.

[Zen1400]

That was with 5 images, so really he has the 2 from the spells so a 32% chance of gettig another illusion and they only last 8 seconds.

[Revengez]

That was with 5 images, so really he has the 2 from the spells so a 32% chance of gettig another illusion and they only last 8 seconds.

Lasts 8 seconds but once one dies another one will be up fast.

[Zen1400]

Thats
1 if your lucky
2 you cast lance again, but that is mana intesive
3 your dead, he's not exactly meant to tank straight damage and relies on you not knowing which one you are.

[Darox]

It's really fucking easy to get out all your images with PL once you hit level 16.

Trust me, he was one of my favourite heros.

[Revengez]

It's really fucking easy to get out all your images with PL once you hit level 16.

Trust me, he was one of my favourite heros.

-is true

[Striker]

Here how about a lvl 25 sf dying to a lvl 15 pa who is probably one of the weakest characters as of now.

Are you fucking kidding me. PL is defintely not one of the weakest, he's one of the stronger ones. He's a beast lategame, virtually nothing can stop him unless theres mass aoe.

Zen are you sure you know what your talking about here?

[Zen1400]

Leshrac late game can rape him alive, and leshrac can do more early-end game. There are much better characters for end game, that can be much more useful in early-mid game.

[Revengez]

Leshrac late game can rape him alive, and leshrac can do more early-end game. There are much better characters for end game, that can be much more useful in early-mid game.

Leshrac is a very good hero indeed, but against pa, not happening. Leshrac tends to have about 1.5kish-1.8k hp at the end of the game (PAs Strong + Carry Point,) and will take leshrac down so hard with her 800-1200 crits (Depending on your build,) she is one of the best late gamers in DotA (along with spec. who did get her nerf  )

[Zen1400]

Leshrac is a glass cannon, so yeah anyone can do it, and its percent chance, so you can get screwd. (trust me happened to me worst thing possible) Now saying Void and PA are level 25 no item (just to make it easy) PA has a 15% chance to crit, a 30% chance to dodge, a blink attack, and ranged slow that slows by 50%. Void has a 25% chance to avoid physical and magical attacks, a 25% chance to bash, a 1300 range blink that slows by 40%, and a ult that once activated lets you beat them to death for a 5 whole seconds. That is much better late and early game.

[Revengez]

A EZ Glasscannon. He got the potential and he owns! Just need to get a skadi on him and your set.

[Zen1400]

Which person are you referring too?

[Revengez]

Which person are you referring too?

L3SHRAC THE MALICOUS

[Zen1400]

Well yes, but if disabled hes food.

[Revengez]

Well yes, but if disabled hes food.

any hero disabled is food

[Zen1400]

No tidehunter can be disabled and come back to eat you alive same with root.

[Revengez]

 It's all situational.

[Darox]

Here how about a lvl 25 sf dying to a lvl 15 pa who is probably one of the weakest characters as of now.

Are you fucking kidding me. PL is defintely not one of the weakest, he's one of the stronger ones. He's a beast lategame, virtually nothing can stop him unless theres mass aoe.

Zen are you sure you know what your talking about here?

Thats a joke right?

PL is pretty weak right now.

Even back in the day, half of the time he was only really as threat to heroes if you were nice and stood still so he could kill you. His strength was that if they did try to fight him and didn't know which was real, he could rape a party with nothing but illusions.

But then he got nerfed and now he sucks pretty badly.

[Revengez]

 Isn't it funny that in an Island Defense forum the topic with the most posts is about DotA?

[Darox]

Thats because there isn't a new changelog thread.

That thing was massive.