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« Reply #75 on: January 25, 2012, 05:56:18 PM »

Seriously, everyone I try to work with is retarded or european.
I was horrible to work with?
I gave my all for you! =(
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« Reply #76 on: January 25, 2012, 10:28:17 PM »

Sorry to break this pyramid, but breaking news (not really).
Yet another version is being hosted now, 3.1.1a! It even comes with a new map preview picture with a lovely "Edited by Jakers".
Can't wait to see what's new Smiley Maybe even more SFX!
Hooray! More stolen map content.

Seriously, everyone I try to work with is retarded.
I feel lucky and grateful that I found you now when you mention it...

New titan: Floricus
Moves DAMN FAST
Slow poison is bugged and doesn't work (thank god)
Has 450 AoE grant nuke (at level 3) with ~140-190 dmg over the levels
Breeze heal (but better)
Standard 60s ww
Ulti slows towers
Sentry stone that only works on trees

Minis:
Bounce nuke
Demonicus mini heal (this and breeze heal on titan??)
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didnt check the mini mini yet, need corpse as usual

 

Should have named it jakers instead of floricus.
The actual titan (not the concept, the abilities etc) was made by Carnerox. Everything in that map (including the changes) were.

Oh joy.
Actually that titan was created by Panda. The base for it existed when I got the map, altough I never finished him because he was a retarded idea, I think he was set to be released in Panda's next big version but then the map broke and I fixed it and took over so that never happened.
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« Reply #77 on: January 25, 2012, 10:33:22 PM »

I feel lucky and grateful that I found you now when you mention it...
And yet, I still have my problems.
Actually that titan was created by Panda. The base for it existed when I got the map, altough I never finished him because he was a retarded idea, I think he was set to be released in Panda's next big version but then the map broke and I fixed it and took over so that never happened.
That half finished nightmare was removed when I was doing a mass cleaning session, so the one in that map is directly copied from the one made by Carnerox in one of his 2.8.6 abominations.
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« Reply #78 on: January 25, 2012, 10:41:03 PM »

I feel lucky and grateful that I found you now when you mention it...
And yet, I still have my problems.
Actually that titan was created by Panda. The base for it existed when I got the map, altough I never finished him because he was a retarded idea, I think he was set to be released in Panda's next big version but then the map broke and I fixed it and took over so that never happened.
That half finished nightmare was removed when I was doing a mass cleaning session, so the one in that map is directly copied from the one made by Carnerox in one of his 2.8.6 abominations.
True, as do I, but you haven't given up and haven't added gamebreaking retarded stuff. Wink

Ahhh... did you remove the old Vampirism items too? Sad Ohh wow... we have a skilled editor here.... I remember his 3.0.7 (?) map... he asked me to fix it, I opened it found it filled with random shit and then when I tried it WC3 did not even load......
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« Reply #79 on: January 27, 2012, 03:18:58 PM »

I do/did not like the leech life items, it made the titan too strong when facing off against builders unless there were 3-4 people attacking at once. The reason the merchant and titan hunter upgrades are there are to make it easier to kill the titan late game when he fails breaking the bases. The mask massively increases the titan's ability to survive those attacks making late game more stale. Or at least that's how I felt when I last played (in god knows how long).
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« Reply #80 on: January 27, 2012, 04:19:07 PM »

I do/did not like the leech life items, it made the titan too strong when facing off against builders unless there were 3-4 people attacking at once. The reason the merchant and titan hunter upgrades are there are to make it easier to kill the titan late game when he fails breaking the bases. The mask massively increases the titan's ability to survive those attacks making late game more stale. Or at least that's how I felt when I last played (in god knows how long).

yeah so instead of just dying to the bases he dies while at the mound.

Gotcha.

The game is already shit for titan, it's nearly impossible to win against good players as titan, so why would you take lifesteal from titan? Hell, it's hardly even used, I'd prefer it be along the lines of 5-10% but be against buildings only. Gives some sustain while seiging
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« Reply #81 on: January 27, 2012, 04:25:29 PM »

The game is already shit for titan, it's nearly impossible to win against good players as titan, so why would you take lifesteal from titan?
And there's your problem. In all the public games I've played recently, the Titan has always won due to the buffs that have been given to it over the versions. Is it because the buffs are working? No, its because the people playing the builders are getting worse. There is always 4-8 players that are mentally retarded and die at key points, ruining any collaboration that the rest of the players may of had.

The game is no longer imbalanced, it is now just a boring one-sided game due to the sheer difference in the levels of skill presented by the players. Which is why we need to start fresh. Now.
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« Reply #82 on: January 28, 2012, 02:06:39 AM »

Yeah, Jakers situation resolved.

Time to afk again!
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« Reply #83 on: January 28, 2012, 04:17:35 AM »

Game is not unbalanced. Titan players are just bullshit. If not how would you explain my 100% on bgn games and my 96% on inhouses (w/o modes almost of the time) (23 games won on the last 25 in 3-4 months). When with inhouse I mean a private game and public a game on bgn careless of who are the players.

Game is not unbalanced. The most skilled player wins.
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« Reply #84 on: January 28, 2012, 06:12:49 AM »

How was it resolved?

You said you didn't trust him anymore, and that you wouldn't work with him; but now you are working with him again?

Also, the complaint at him shouldn't be dropped for the way he acted and his deletion of on-topic posts.
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« Reply #85 on: January 28, 2012, 06:48:41 AM »

I think Neco had to accept these conditions to not lose every right over the map. Jakers won't get punished anyway because BGN is broken.
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« Reply #86 on: January 28, 2012, 01:28:49 PM »

It is skill based, but there are 2 main skills builders use:
  • Dodging
  • Denying

While Dodging is hard to master, Denying is a rather simple skill to master. And that's the problem. Once you get good at denying everything, there is no feed for the titan. Now imagine a full house of skilled builders that can deny easily. That means absolutely shit feed for the titan. Just ask Murs.
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« Reply #87 on: January 28, 2012, 02:15:42 PM »

Turns out BGN had a lot more involvement in it than I thought.

Jakers was merely a head-figure to take the heat (and make some crappy changes, oh god).
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« Reply #88 on: January 28, 2012, 02:51:19 PM »

Turns out BGN had a lot more involvement in it than I thought.

Jakers was merely a head-figure to take the heat (and make some crappy changes, oh god).

Sooo.. Jakers isn't at fault then, and was just picked secretly to work with you and take all the publicity crap?
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« Reply #89 on: January 28, 2012, 03:42:23 PM »

*Herp*
Nono, BGN was pulling the strings, Jakers was merely sitting there.

With so much miscommunication, I immediately blamed him while the guilty hid behind pretend afks.
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« Reply #90 on: January 28, 2012, 04:36:56 PM »

*Herp*
Nono, BGN was pulling the strings, Jakers was merely sitting there.

With so much miscommunication, I immediately blamed him while the guilty hid behind pretend afks.
So how can you trust BGN now? (for example: them trying to get an unprotected version from Jakers, changing it editing you out, then hosting it on their bot, making it the de facto version.)
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« Reply #91 on: January 28, 2012, 04:44:54 PM »

He doesn't.
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« Reply #92 on: January 28, 2012, 04:46:09 PM »

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Nono, BGN was pulling the strings, Jakers was merely sitting there.

With so much miscommunication, I immediately blamed him while the guilty hid behind pretend afks.

Yes so now they change your position from "developer" to "island defense game moderator"
inb4demoted for inactivity ^^
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« Reply #93 on: January 28, 2012, 05:09:17 PM »

Jakers and I have come together trying to get Bio's involvement of the ID section out.

Hopefully it works.
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« Reply #94 on: January 28, 2012, 05:31:48 PM »

Jakers and I have come together trying to get Bio's involvement of the ID section out.

Hopefully it works.

Good luck with that....
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« Reply #95 on: January 29, 2012, 05:48:27 AM »

Yes so now they change your position from "developer" to "island defense game moderator"
inb4demoted for inactivity ^^

"developer" to "island defense game moderator" is actually a promotion, not a demotion, it's for forum commands or something.
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« Reply #96 on: January 29, 2012, 08:40:44 AM »

So we can once again flame and hate absolutemstr for the shit he's doing like in the shitty BG (or w/e it was called) times?

I knew since bio returned, there won't be anything positiv about bgn.
And to hear that they just 'abused' you or jakers to get the map, isn't understandable for me.
Furthermore he removes admins position for shitty reasons only because they tell him their opinion about his fail edtied map.

And like always there won't happend anything but we are already used to it.
but the stupid naiv pubs who adore jakers or abso for doing shit are just so ..........

R.I.H(ell) BGN. By the way, neco what are u doing now? Being quiet so they don't remove your powers and abuse the map or what?  Huh?  Useless to work with bgn anyway. *remember abso spamming gid, qq*
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« Reply #97 on: January 29, 2012, 02:22:41 PM »

As to the denying thing, one change that might help is giving fruits trees 1-1 damage. Other food sources would share this as well, until they gain any upgrades they might have, like goblin factories.

This would make full deny more time consuming and harder to do, as the further you are away from 1 hp on the food sources the longer it would take to deny. It may also be harder to do successfully due to food sources not having the same amount of health as each other. The easier way of doing so, using your hunter, would put your hunter at risk of feeding as well.

This obviously isn't a permanent solution for ID balance, but it's a change that just might work as a band-aid for the time being.
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« Reply #98 on: January 29, 2012, 02:49:16 PM »

TLDR: BGN is shit and is full of assholes but we can't do shit about it because they are the only reliable source of hosting for the map.
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« Reply #99 on: January 29, 2012, 05:06:42 PM »

So we can once again flame and hate absolutemstr for the shit he's doing like in the shitty BG (or w/e it was called) times?

I knew since bio returned, there won't be anything positiv about bgn.
And to hear that they just 'abused' you or jakers to get the map, isn't understandable for me.
Furthermore he removes admins position for shitty reasons only because they tell him their opinion about his fail edtied map.

And like always there won't happend anything but we are already used to it.
but the stupid naiv pubs who adore jakers or abso for doing shit are just so ..........

R.I.H(ell) BGN. By the way, neco what are u doing now? Being quiet so they don't remove your powers and abuse the map or what?  Huh?  Useless to work with bgn anyway. *remember abso spamming gid, qq*


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