Movespeed

[Monkeysmine]

Helm of dominator gives only a 10 raw speed bonus to the titan, but the tooltip says 10%
why does the item only give 10% anyways, when webbed gives 20% and shit like super regen, which also uses webbed give +20%?

[Frankjg]

It doesn't really matter. It's a shit item anyway, haha.

But seriously, it should give 20%. Good catch, too.

[theorchero]

wait, doesnt the helm add a shitload of damage AND an aura?


how the fuck is that useless?

[Neco]

wait, doesnt the helm add a shitload of damage AND an aura?


how the fuck is that useless?

Sacrificing these for a slower movespeed.

[Frankjg]

I say its useless since it costs a stupid high amount of gold. You would be better off with tridents.

[theorchero]

I say its useless since it costs a stupid high amount of gold. You would be better off with tridents.

unless you prefer massing minions...

[Monkeysmine]

the attackspeed/movespeed item also doesn't give the 20% movespeed it claims, it's definitely lower than webbed alone, i'm guessing its also just a raw 20 movespeed bonus.
imo the cost of the helm is too high now to be a viable item in all games, especially because the movespeed is so nerfed and there's very limited alternatives to get it back.

[theorchero]

What?

The helm was nerfed?

DAMN IT.

[Neco]

None of the values on any of the items are the correct % of movespeed.

You cannot give a percentage of movespeed.

Tooltips are incorrect.

[Coaster_Man]

None of the values on any of the items are the correct % of movespeed.

You cannot give a percentage of movespeed.

Tooltips are incorrect.

Well if none of the movespeed items stack... can't you just make the base +MS the same as if it were the %? So lets say u have 350 MS and u want items for +10% MS, but you can't do that. So instead you make an item do +35 MS. Might be a problem if different titans move quicker/slower but they should be all the same anyways.

edit: or just do endurance aura with 0 range, eh

[Neco]

So lets say u have 350 MS and u want items for +10% MS, but you can't do that. So instead you make an item do +35 MS. Might be a problem if different titans move quicker/slower but they should be all the same anyways.

Exactly what happens right now (with Webbed Feet, others were derped upon).

edit: or just do endurance aura with 0 range, eh

Doesn't stack with other endurance auras.

[theorchero]

So lets say u have 350 MS and u want items for +10% MS, but you can't do that. So instead you make an item do +35 MS. Might be a problem if different titans move quicker/slower but they should be all the same anyways.

Exactly what happens right now (with Webbed Feet, others were derped upon).

edit: or just do endurance aura with 0 range, eh

Doesn't stack with other endurance auras.

any other aura but add the movement effect, with no model ofc, and 0 range.

[Frankjg]

You don't need 0 range, just make it only effect self. Unholy aura or endurance aura would do the trick. Then it would be an exact %.

It would be better this way since certain titans have higher ms than other, like demo.

[Neco]

Doesn't stack with other endurance auras.

Auras that effect movement speed do not stack with each other (except Tornado, but herp).

[theorchero]

You don't need 0 range, just make it only effect self. Unholy aura or endurance aura would do the trick. Then it would be an exact %.

It would be better this way since certain titans have higher ms than other, like demo.

I tried to take into account dummy units. Dummy units "ontop" of him should be affected by it.

but otherwise, yes, just selecting unit type affected by it would be sufficient otherwise.

[burn]

Back when helm of dom. came out i used to use it every game as titan, and always had a webbed feet + helm of dom, but now its kinda bad since it costs so much, prefer defense build, although i often get helm of command for that little bonus damage to kill shit.

[Frankjg]

Wait, movement speed bonuses stack in ID? O.o

[theorchero]

Wait, movement speed bonuses stack in ID? O.o

some do, some dont.

[Coaster_Man]

Wait, movement speed bonuses stack in ID? O.o

No, they only overlap from what I know. 10% -> 20%