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« on: November 15, 2011, 01:12:45 AM » |
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Since everyone is complaining how ogre hunter sucks so badly, why not make it into an actual ogre spellcaster whereas he casts spells like a bunch nukes and offensive abilities dealing (if all used at once) 500 magical damage. Since no-one ever uses catapults to kill minions anymore, why not make the move speed maxed already so u don't ever have to upgrade the move speed? Just a thought, BurnShady
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« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2011, 03:11:37 AM » |
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Hunter should get some upgrades for offensive nukes, but I see a lot catapult ganks in pubs so no need for it
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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2011, 11:24:30 AM » |
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There was a discussion before about making the Orge Titan Hunter viable. Dig it up and read it if you're interested in it.
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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2011, 04:03:14 PM » |
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Yeah his hunter is crap and overrrated. I remember for a time that some people were saying he was one of the top hunters in the game, not sure how anybody could be delusional enough to think that.
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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2011, 05:49:53 PM » |
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What are the hunters current skills? It's been awhile since I touched ID.
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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2011, 10:50:06 PM » |
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current = repair + blink, and his expert hunt training is probably not worth upgrading since it doesnt add slow to the hits (needs confirmation)
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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2011, 06:14:45 PM » |
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his hunt upgrade is the only good thing about him.
it adds a nice boost to damage but that's about it.
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« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2011, 07:47:25 PM » |
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whenever i random ogre, i literally just give up. i find a seed to hide in and /afk or talk with others
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« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2011, 08:34:36 PM » |
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... What if we made 2 types of ogre towers. 1 type would be the normal slightly-worse-than-average-at-full-upgrades ogre catapult and one would be... an imperial ogre catapult. This catapult would obviously cost gold, take up more food and be stronger and faster than the average ogre catapult but unlike its counterpart, the imperial's range cannot be upgraded.
Also, reduce the fucking wood needed for the upgrades. You need to mine uninterrupted for 30 minutes to stand a chance late-game.
What does his hunter's upgrade do exactly? I have an idea of what skill to add to make him viable but I want to know first.
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« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2011, 03:37:08 PM » |
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nerf his wood cost ffs
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« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2011, 12:49:07 PM » |
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That alone would give the oger a big boost
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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2011, 10:54:53 PM » |
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give him another club for his left hand.
skyrim can dual wield, time for wc3 to fall in line.
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« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2012, 12:27:44 PM » |
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What if the ogre's titan hunter could make catapults as well? That way, pults could be created while "on the hunt" making them more mobile without skipping the speed upgrades, and simultaneously improving the hunter's ganking capability.
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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2012, 02:16:10 PM » |
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What if the ogre's titan hunter could make catapults as well? That way, pults could be created while "on the hunt" making them more mobile without skipping the speed upgrades, and simultaneously improving the hunter's ganking capability.
It used to be able to, I forgot why it was removed. |
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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2012, 02:51:41 PM » |
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lol, simple:
A titan hunter kept building one at middle and killed you with it
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« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2012, 06:55:15 PM » |
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No, no it was before my time.
Hmmm...
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« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2012, 05:50:32 PM » |
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ahh, I miss stacking ogre towers.
"LUL NOOB OGRE HAS 1 TOWER" - titan
"COME AT BE BRO" -ogre cowering in fear
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« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2012, 05:34:37 AM » |
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At the moment in island defense 3.0.9d (mbot and bgn hosts) the max. ogre's towers are 45 instead of 51 damage, and max. 900 range.. Any thoughts?
-Burn
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« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2012, 05:49:08 AM » |
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I think 45 is fair before merchant considering their attack speed. The range is pretty much typical of others, too. I kind of disagree with the lumber cost of the upgrades, though. The need to fully lumber base just like any other builder, spend more lumber than any other builder, and then fork out 150 for each catapult, which is like an enhanced tower if i'm not mistaken.
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« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2012, 12:36:55 PM » |
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At the moment in island defense 3.0.9d (mbot and bgn hosts) the max. ogre's towers are 45 instead of 51 damage, and max. 900 range.. Any thoughts?
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« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2012, 06:58:36 AM » |
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if you're going to nerf his damage, MAKE HIS WOOD COST LOWER.
It is dumb to have to lumber the entire game to barely reach an average strength base with ogre, when any other builder would be badass at an early stage of the game with the amount he has to wood.
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« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2012, 06:55:05 PM » |
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I still think giving him the ability to chuck him-self would not only be funny (ugh couldn't spell that other word for funny ) but practical too. |
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« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2012, 09:31:49 PM » |
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if you're going to nerf his damage, MAKE HIS WOOD COST LOWER.
It is dumb to have to lumber the entire game to barely reach an average strength base with ogre, when any other builder would be badass at an early stage of the game with the amount he has to wood.
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« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2012, 02:00:05 AM » |
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At the moment in island defense 3.0.9d (mbot and bgn hosts) the max. ogre's towers are 45 instead of 51 damage, and max. 900 range.. Any thoughts?
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Really? I must be doing it wrong then. If you mean before having to use any gold, then yes. No different than any other builder. Oh, didn't know you guys would move the upgrade damage towers to the arc, considering all the other builders don't need merch + arc to fully up their tower damage, my mistake. I don't usually get arc in games on most builders. -Burn |
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« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2012, 02:14:33 AM » |
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Pretty sure its been like that for a while.
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