Lol @ WC3 (On an unrelated note, why not release Unprotected versions?)

[Gwypaas]

I just loaded up Stealthbot and tried to log on bnet för the first time in many months, both on EU and USEast using my 2 pairs of CD keys and one pair is banned and the other is in use by "Ghost"... awesome, not really that I care but I just find it amusing...

Either way, to a more serious note, what would you as a community think if I released the unprotected versions I have? I feel like after a quick browsing of this forum as if everything is dying (not surprising) and no one is really commiting since the ones who can commit is holding tight to the tools to do it.

I would probably release everything leading up to 3.0.6e, G# series and the 3.1.0 I and EoW.Chips created,  just have to erase the Admin codes so it's not saved in plain text in the maps anymore... that's some work though, and I don't feel like working to do this really. I also think I have some version of the 3.0.7 Carnerox tried to create but that map is corrupted and can't be loaded in WC3 as far as I know so it probably won't be of any real use.

I will not return to WC3 again, this is just what I feel could be one final effort for the small community that still exists.

If you want to contact me personally add "Gwypaas" on Skype.

[MuDDy_PaNDa]

this would in my opinion result in yet another community split, and with how small it is in the present, we cannot afford it.

I dont support.

[D1RE]

To be honest I'm not sure if I see the point. As far as I can tell this game has turned into a complete pub map once again. Releasing the map won't really matter because there are next to no active players left on the forum.

[Neco]

I doubt anyone would even pick it up... who wants to edit a map on Blizzard's crappy map editor?

[Gwypaas]

I'm doubting that anyone would pick it up too, but, the chance of someone picking it up and actually making something new worthwhile out of it is way bigger if anyone had access it compared to just a very select few.

Or maybe, we could move the map into a more of an open source style, let anyone who is reputable enough in the community (Low threshold) have access to a development forum were the current version of the map can be found and they can themselves contribute, though every change need to be discussed on before it enters the final version. Of course would this forum have to be readable by everyone (just hide the download link to make it take a little bit more effort to get it.). This requires a lot of work from a core few with great knowledge though, might be a bit hard to actually do.

Now I'm just brainstorming but ID as it is, is stuck today. Darox version is too old and outdated to be able to create anything from and the current editor/editors are not really dedicated.

[theorchero]

I agree, make the map open to a select few, not publicly, or we'll end up with ID being the new LOAP.

[Neco]

I've always wanted to make the map Open Sourced but have just never really thought of a good way to go about it.

A lot of the coding would need to be cleaned up to be more manageable (which I was doing anyway) and comments added here and there so people know what abstract things do.

The current version handling system used (Indicina, which I've made on my site for shits and giggles) has the option to add "Committers" to the project which have access to downloading / uploading versions. Perhaps users that show that they can commit valuable changes / fixes could be added to this (the main branch).

[Bremetar]

I agree, make the map open to a select few, not publicly, or we'll end up with ID being the new LOAP.

Whats so bad about LOAP? it kept me entertained.... for half a day

orc, seeing as how you're one of the few active members of this forum and you know how to edit, i nominate you to be editor.

[theorchero]

Yay ^_^

and the problem with loap is This.

[Bremetar]

i was kidding bout the first part.

[theorchero]

i was kidding bout the first part.

since my nomination was second...

thanks.


I suspect chocobo or Ryld or d1re is gonna come and tell you to get off my dick shortly.

[Ryld]

I agree, make the map open to a select few, not publicly, or we'll end up with ID being the new LOAP.

Whats so bad about LOAP? it kept me entertained.... for half a day

orc, seeing as how you're one of the few active members of this forum and you know how to edit, i nominate you to be editor.

the hell brem get off his dick

[theorchero]

hi ryld

[VAMPSI]

I will be an editor, like iceftog!
It says I edit the map, but a team of highly trained monkeys is doing the triggering

[theorchero]

I will be an editor, like iceftog!
It says I edit the map, but a team of highly trained monkeys is doing the triggering

nonono

youtube has the monekys

[Playerof]

Yup. * Rummages in snap shot file*.
Dam i threw that snap shot away D:

[Gwypaas]

Keep it on topic.

[turbo]

I see releasing the maps source code/making it open source as a last ditch effort to revive ID. As in the last thing we should try.

[theorchero]

I see releasing the maps source code/making it open source as a last ditch effort to revive ID. As in the last thing we should try.

agreed. We have dedicated and good editors working in relative harmony as we speak, let's not rock the fucking boat and split the community.

[Bremetar]

:| whos editing right now? and whos actually willing to step up.

[Gwypaas]

I see releasing the maps source code/making it open source as a last ditch effort to revive ID. As in the last thing we should try.

agreed. We have dedicated and good editors working in relative harmony as we speak, let's not rock the fucking boat and split the community.

Why would the community split? The whole point of this move would be to allow anyone to edit the map and then allow them to make their own thread here to promote their version. Give the people trying feedback and help them create the best map they can, of course would it be promoted that they release their additions as open source to make any other person/group trying out their own version easily able add that feature, though this will be the hardest part since everyone wants to see their name sitting on the loading screen with their special features associated to it.

But I don't think the community would split, we just need to embrace all attempts, sure there will be bots hosting their own versions online but I think the bot owners will go for the most popular, stable and fun version to promote their own bot, because otherwise their numbers will diminish over time compared to other bots.

[Ryld]

competition is good

[Striker]

I'll edit np.

[theorchero]

The community will split because there will be two active versions. Neco and sickle are editing, we don't need others at the moment, though I admit is a possibility to consider if that should change.

[Gwypaas]

The community will split because there will be two active versions. Neco and sickle are editing, we don't need others at the moment, though I admit is a possibility to consider if that should change.

The whole point of this is not to have two active versions, but to embrace any attempt that is made. You do need something new, this community needs some kind of new blood. Look how active it is today compared to 6 months ago, compared to 12, compared to 18. Something needs to happen NOW or it will never happen.