New Items for Audascious

[Smygarn]

I am fully confident in that what Audascious needs is not to be balanced to the list of items that are currently in the game, but items that will adapt to her and pave the way for more titans to vary the game. Therefore, i'd like to dedicate this thread to making up items.

I'll start off with making a few basic items and a couple set items. Lets start with:


Gnarled Staff
Commonly on magical islands, Gnarled Staffs excrete and purify that which holds one.

Cost: 5 Gold - 1300 Lumber
Attribute: +3 intellect
 

Enchanted Staff
Composed of infused Gnarled Staffs, these magical wonders are perfectly suited for beings of massive energy. The power they possess is already beyond the understanding or control of a lesser mortal on the real world.
Cost: 30 Gold
Attribute: +10 intellect, 100 Mana, 15 damage
(3 Gnarled Staffs will compose an Enchanted Staff for free)


Ancient Titanic Staff
Only brought together by a conjoined mass of three Enchanted Staffs, The Ancient Titanic Staff is a wonder that even Titans are impressed by. Anyone unfit that has tried to wield one has smoldered away, much less even find one not in the hands of a Titan.
Cost: 15 Gold + (30*3 + 25)
Set Item - 3 Enchanted Staffs, 1 Magic Coral + Recipe
Attribute: +20 Intellect, 250 Mana and 35 Damage



Magic Stone
These stones are infused with a gravity so powerful, it can suck in energy from the ground and life energy from nearby plants.
When matter gets pulled in, energy is filtered and repelled from the stone. Then the released Energy can be absorbed as pure mana.
Cost: 12 Gold
Attribute: +7 Mana Regen


Preon Star
Created by Magic Stones absorbing each other, they eventually become a Preon Star. These tiny stars can be the size of a football or less, but still have gravity more potent than even Earth. As such when in the hands of a Titan, they absorb and filter matter even if it comes at great speed towards a different angle, then to release pure energy.
Cost: 12
Set Item - 4 Magic Stones + Recipe
Attribute: +25 mana Regen, 2 Armor, 6% to absorb damage and revitalize the full extent.


Coral Pendant
By compressing magic corals together, a Coral Pendant is created. Often for conserving space, The Pendant still makes up for itself.
Cost: 5 Gold + (25*2)
Set Item: Magic Coral*2
Attributes: +400 Mana, +75% Base Mana Regen


Preon Pendant
By compressing magic corals and magic stones together, a Preon Star that can be adorned within an item is created. When putting one into a Coral Pendant, the once fierce gravity now radiates the pure energy from within the shell. Additionally, the Pendant gain considerable assets beyond its normal threshold due to this.
Cost: 10 Gold + (12+ 25+ 55)
Set Item: Magic Stone, Magic Coral, Coral Pendant
Attributes: +10 Mana Regen, 800 Mana, +100% Base Mana Regen, Active Ability: Mana Shield - 2 Damage per Mana Point.

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These will make out for some items to start this thread. I will heartfully remind you that you are requested to post ideas of your own to help.

[Coaster_Man]

*Note that smygarn had showed me the some icons before hand, so if some ideas are similar that would be why.*

Fridged Sphere - 30
Adds a minor frost damage to attack, increasing damage by 10 and giving a 4 second slow of 40% move speed and 10% slow to attack speed on the target.

Staff of the Moon - 25
Grants the holder 15 extra damage and has a 10% chance to heal 100 mana on attack. Only the chance to cast percentage and damage stacks.

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Staff of the Stars - Staff of Moonx2 + recipe (25) Grants the holder 40 extra damage and has a 25% chance to heal 150 mana on attack.

Orb of Magic - 5 (Consumable)
Places an orb on the ground that heals allied units mana by 2%/sec. However this harnessed magic is hard to contain, and eventually it breaks the orb and the magic escapes Last 20 seconds.

Controlled orb of Magic - orb of magicx3 + recipe (5) (Permanent)
Places an orb on the ground that heals allied units mana by 2%/sec. The orb has a special container that hardens and deactivates the energy releasing magic after it attemps to escape. Last 20 seconds.

Crest of the Sea - 10
Heals the user for 500 mana at the cost of 250 mana. 60 second cd.

Crest of the Oceans (crest of the sea x2, no recipe required)
Heals the user for 1000 mana at the cost of 500. 60 second cd.

Robe of the Tides (Magic Coral + Crest of the Oceans + Reicpe (20)
Provides the hero with an extra 300 mana as well as 75% mana regeneration. Also can be actively used to heal the user for 1250 mana at the cost of 625.

Numbers will need to be tweaked, perhaps massively.

[Playerof]

Smy.
in general your item recipies see very weak!

[Jux.Mage]

Fridged Sphere is imbalanced. 4 Second Slow, no no no. Make it a 1-2.5 second slow.
Orb of Magic is like Mana Wand.  Except Cheaper.

Gnarled Staff seems useless, unless you improve it's Stats addition.
Magic Stone should have a higher price, to at least 20. It's more like Magic Coral, in a sense.

[PoNy]

*Note that smygarn had showed me the some icons before hand, so if some ideas are similar that would be why.*

Fridged Sphere - 30
Adds a minor frost damage to attack, increasing damage by 10 and giving a 4 second slow of 40% move speed and 10% slow to attack speed on the target.
Titans don't need another slow, neither does Aud

Staff of the Moon - 25
Grants the holder 15 extra damage and has a 10% chance to heal 100 mana on attack. Only the chance to cast percentage and damage stacks.
That means everything stacks, not needed imo since you are solely thinking of one titan and did not realize how bad this would be for the other titans

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Staff of the Stars - Staff of Moonx2 + recipe (25) Grants the holder 40 extra damage and has a 25% chance to heal 150 mana on attack.
Same as above

Orb of Magic - 5 (Consumable)
Places an orb on the ground that heals allied units mana by 2%/sec. However this harnessed magic is hard to contain, and eventually it breaks the orb and the magic escapes Last 20 seconds.
I thought mana wards were already decided to be bad

Controlled orb of Magic - orb of magicx3 + recipe (5) (Permanent)
Places an orb on the ground that heals allied units mana by 2%/sec. The orb has a special container that hardens and deactivates the energy releasing magic after it attemps to escape. Last 20 seconds.
Same as above

Crest of the Sea - 10
Heals the user for 500 mana at the cost of 250 mana. 60 second cd.
We don't need a single target arcane ring in ID, it will be more harm then it will help

Crest of the Oceans (crest of the sea x2, no recipe required)
Heals the user for 1000 mana at the cost of 500. 60 second cd.
Same as above

Robe of the Tides (Magic Coral + Crest of the Oceans + Reicpe (20)
Provides the hero with an extra 300 mana as well as 75% mana regeneration. Also can be actively used to heal the user for 1250 mana at the cost of 625.
Like a super coral, I'm fine with this except that it needs to have its arcane ring effect removed.

Numbers will need to be tweaked, perhaps massively.

I am fully confident in that what Audascious needs is not to be balanced to the list of items that are currently in the game, but items that will adapt to her and pave the way for more titans to vary the game. Therefore, i'd like to dedicate this thread to making up items.

I'll start off with making a few basic items and a couple set items. Lets start with:


Gnarled Staff
Commonly on magical islands, Gnarled Staffs excrete and purify that which holds one.
Since this is the drop item I think it giving 25 mana instead of 3 int would be better, since not all builders have stats

Cost: 5 Gold - 1300 Lumber
Attribute: +3 intellect
 

Enchanted Staff
Composed of infused Gnarled Staffs, these magical wonders are perfectly suited for beings of massive energy. The power they possess is already beyond the understanding or control of a lesser mortal on the real world.
The semi Aud version of a trident, this seems ok but weaker then the trident by a lot, I don't think it needs to give mana pool and just more int would be better.
Cost: 30 Gold
Attribute: +10 intellect, 100 Mana, 15 damage
(3 Gnarled Staffs will compose an Enchanted Staff for free)


Ancient Titanic Staff
Only brought together by a conjoined mass of three Enchanted Staffs, The Ancient Titanic Staff is a wonder that even Titans are impressed by. Anyone unfit that has tried to wield one has smoldered away, much less even find one not in the hands of a Titan.
130 gold for this piece of trash, doesn't even give mana regen from coral, and pales in comparison to tridents
Cost: 15 Gold + (30*3 + 25)
Set Item - 3 Enchanted Staffs, 1 Magic Coral + Recipe
Attribute: +20 Intellect, 250 Mana and 35 Damage



Magic Stone
These stones are infused with a gravity so powerful, it can suck in energy from the ground and life energy from nearby plants.
When matter gets pulled in, energy is filtered and repelled from the stone. Then the released Energy can be absorbed as pure mana.
Because this isn't by %, it will scale extremely well with coral and give a lot of titans somewhat endless mana, not sure if the % on coral is based on base mana regen or overall
Cost: 12 Gold
Attribute: +7 Mana Regen


Preon Star
Created by Magic Stones absorbing each other, they eventually become a Preon Star. These tiny stars can be the size of a football or less, but still have gravity more potent than even Earth. As such when in the hands of a Titan, they absorb and filter matter even if it comes at great speed towards a different angle, then to release pure energy.
as said above about the base mana regen, the 6% adsorb damage I would take it is titan takes the hit then rapidly regenerates the amount lost if this procs?
Cost: 12
Set Item - 4 Magic Stones + Recipe
Attribute: +25 mana Regen, 2 Armor, 6% to absorb damage and revitalize the full extent.


Coral Pendant
By compressing magic corals together, a Coral Pendant is created. Often for conserving space, The Pendant still makes up for itself.
Sounds legit, thought the other recipes revolving around coral would be more useful and viable
Cost: 5 Gold + (25*2)
Set Item: Magic Coral*2
Attributes: +400 Mana, +75% Base Mana Regen


Preon Pendant
By compressing magic corals and magic stones together, a Preon Star that can be adorned within an item is created. When putting one into a Coral Pendant, the once fierce gravity now radiates the pure energy from within the shell. Additionally, the Pendant gain considerable assets beyond its normal threshold due to this.
Other then the active this item is really well thought out, I don't think the Mana shield active will compare to abysmal waters and if the titan wanted a shield he would of gotten abysmal for sure
Cost: 10 Gold + (12+ 25+ 55)
Set Item: Magic Stone, Magic Coral, Coral Pendant
Attributes: +10 Mana Regen, 800 Mana, +100% Base Mana Regen, Active Ability: Mana Shield - 2 Damage per Mana Point.

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These will make out for some items to start this thread. I will heartfully remind you that you are requested to post ideas of your own to help.

[Smygarn]

Gnarled Staff
Commonly on magical islands, Gnarled Staffs provide the holder with a feeling of comfort.

Cost: 5 Gold - 1300 Lumber
Attribute: +30 Mana
 

Enchanted Staff
Composed of infused Gnarled Staffs, these magical wonders are perfectly suited for beings of massive energy. The power they possess is already beyond the understanding or control of a lesser mortal on the real world.
Cost: 30 Gold
Attribute: +15 intellect, 15 damage
(3 Gnarled Staffs will compose an Enchanted Staff for free)


Ancient Titanic Staff
Only brought together by a conjoined mass of three Enchanted Staffs, The Ancient Titanic Staff is a wonder that even Titans are impressed by. Anyone unfit that has tried to wield one has smoldered away, much less even find one not in the hands of a Titan.
Cost: 15 Gold + (30*3)
Set Item - 3 Enchanted Staffs + Recipe
Attribute: +40 Intellect, and 35 Damage



Magic Stone
These stones are infused with a gravity so powerful, it can suck in energy from the ground and life energy from nearby plants.
When matter gets pulled in, energy is filtered and repelled from the stone. Then the released Energy can be absorbed as pure mana.
Cost: 6 Gold
Attribute: +8% Mana Regen


Preon Star
Created by Magic Stones absorbing each other, they eventually become a Preon Star. These tiny stars can be the size of a football or less, but still have gravity more potent than even Earth. As such when in the hands of a Titan, they absorb and filter matter even if it comes at great speed towards a different angle, then to release pure energy.
Cost: 10
Set Item - 4 Magic Stones + Recipe
Attribute: +5 Mana Regen, +25% Mana regen 2 Armor, 6% to absorb incoming damage.


Coral Pendant
By compressing magic corals together, a Coral Pendant is created. Often for conserving space, The Pendant still makes up for itself.
Cost: 5 Gold + (25*2)
Set Item: Magic Coral*2
Attributes: +400 Mana, +75% Base Mana Regen


Preon Pendant
By compressing magic corals and magic stones together, a Preon Star that can be adorned within an item is created. When putting one into a Coral Pendant, the once fierce gravity now radiates the pure energy from within the shell. Additionally, the Pendant gain considerable assets beyond its normal threshold due to this.
Cost: 10 Gold + (12+ 25+ 55)
Set Item: Magic Stone, Magic Coral, Coral Pendant
Attributes: +10 Mana Regen, 800 Mana, +100% Base Mana Regen, Active Ability: Mana Shield - 3 Damage per Mana Point.

[Playerof]

Why can titans buy gnarled staffs for 15 gold to make a 30gold item D:
Other wise they seem good

[Coaster_Man]

Why can titans buy gnarled staffs for 15 gold to make a 30gold item D:
Other wise they seem good

They are the equivalent of a regular Trident, which you cannot buy (except for lumber). You have to find them.

[sickle]

I didn't read them, but there should be an item that does something like 500 HP -> 400 Mana, with a longish CD.

[burn]

Boots of mana:



Gives 250 mana to maximum mana pool.

Gives 250 replenishnable mana on use to yourself and any nearby allies around, cooldown is 100 seconds.

Gives 20% Bonus move speed, does not stack with other move speed items.

Cost: (30g + 25g + 10g = 65g)
-> Recipe + Coral + Webbed feet

Although this might be a pretty costly item, I think that this item would be really helpful in terms that coral are both really commonly used standalone items, and could easily replace the life essence item.

[Carnerox]

Boots of mana:



Gives 250 mana to maximum mana pool.

Gives 250 replenishnable mana on use to yourself and any nearby allies around, cooldown is 100 seconds.

Gives 20% Bonus move speed, does not stack with other move speed items.

Cost: (30g + 25g + 10g = 65g)
-> Recipe + Coral + Webbed feet

Although this might be a pretty costly item, I think that this item would be really helpful in terms that coral are both really commonly used standalone items, and could easily replace the life essence item.

Rip from DotA.
Give, and replenishes 250 mana, what a waste of gold. Why not 500-600 for the amount of gold you put into it and the cooldown is way too high.

[Coaster_Man]

Boots of mana:



Gives 250 mana to maximum mana pool.

Gives 250 replenishnable mana on use to yourself and any nearby allies around, cooldown is 100 seconds.

Gives 20% Bonus move speed, does not stack with other move speed items.

Cost: (30g + 25g + 10g = 65g)
-> Recipe + Coral + Webbed feet

Although this might be a pretty costly item, I think that this item would be really helpful in terms that coral are both really commonly used standalone items, and could easily replace the life essence item.

Rip from DotA.
Give, and replenishes 250 mana, what a waste of gold. Why not 500-600 for the amount of gold you put into it and the cooldown is way too high.

and magic corals totally cost 20 gold

[Dott]

Gnarled Staff should make it benefit builders, it only benefits Tauren and Titan Hunters...
That's IMO

[Coolguy]

Why do you want to put in game another 9 useless items, which will be used by single character, who still will be useless?

[Frankjg]

The idea is that we pave the way for more than just strength heroes. Aud is still in development, it's still beta after all. I'm confident that she will be a viable and fun to play titan once we're done testing.

And, since she is the first intellect titan, she needs items that will benefit her, instead of a large amount of items that will only benefit strength heroes.

[Coolguy]

Let me enlighten you: builders can already base at 2nd minute of the game. Making titan who "hunts" is useless waste of time. Deception? Sorry, aud causes no problems at all. Stay in juke points for 30 more seconds and you are safe. The point of this game is that there is no place for int titan. What about manaburn? She roughly has 200 damage and 3500 health by level 8 or 9.
If you want to balance int titan, first step would be to change nearly all content game already has -- including towers, walls, items, other titans and builders.
Rather than doing this really big work, there is one viable option: make aud STRENGTH based, rebalance manacost of her current spells to fit new version.

[PoNy]

Or just balance the stat growth and put an int version of tridents, since this will make way for the possibility of int Netherious
And change her heal in some way or form, since yes it does something similar to heal but the amount of mana spent compared to the amount of health you get versus the other heals isn't worth it.

Possible solution: Mana shield consumes 10-25% of maximum mana and it protects 100-150% of the amount of mana spent.

Numbers are placeholders.

[Neco]

Mana shields have two different fields in them, and neither of them do what they say they do.

Triggering mana shield time? ZzzZzzzZzzzzzzzzz.

[PoNy]

Mana shields have two different fields in them, and neither of them do what they say they do.

Triggering mana shield time? ZzzZzzzZzzzzzzzzz.

Talking about a whole new skill similar to Khadgars pipe in Dota but for both types of damage. (So abaddon's shield that takes % of your mana and protects against 100-150% of the mana spent to cast it)

[Coolguy]

Are you mad? That requires triggering using JASS. And it's easily not island defense way.

[PoNy]

Are you mad? That requires triggering using JASS. And it's easily not island defense way.

I don't edit, I don't pretend to know how to edit.

Right now I'm spouting concepts, and unless you can tell me why a concept is bad, I don't see why it won't be viable compared to the current mana shield.

[burn]

Boots of mana:



Gives 250 mana to maximum mana pool.

Gives 250 replenishnable mana on use to yourself and any nearby allies around, cooldown is 100 seconds.

Gives 20% Bonus move speed, does not stack with other move speed items.

Cost: (30g + 25g + 10g = 65g)
-> Recipe + Coral + Webbed feet

Although this might be a pretty costly item, I think that this item would be really helpful in terms that coral are both really commonly used standalone items, and could easily replace the life essence item.

Rip from DotA.
Give, and replenishes 250 mana, what a waste of gold. Why not 500-600 for the amount of gold you put into it and the cooldown is way too high.

and magic corals totally cost 20 gold

So it's a rip from dota, can easily change it like giving 250 replenish-able mana over the course of 5~10 seconds, overpowered? cost too much? numbers can always be changed around. I feel that if this item is balanced (enough) then it would become a really good item, substituting the life essence item, as life essence is for titans that want to camp outside a base forever, whereas this boot will be able to give a sudden burst of mana, and also substituting a better item for the titan if the titan doesn't get super regen spines. or wants a greater speed boost compared to helm of dom's 10% speed boost.

And @ coaster's comment, ofc we all know that coral has a cost of 20g in all versions at this moment, until i saw that smy has all his corals at the price of 25g, so naturally i also put 25g since i thought that the coming versions coral's price would be upped.

[Smygarn]

No, that was just my typing error, sorry about that.

[theorchero]

why not just give her decent abilities.

[Frankjg]

why not just give her decent abilities.

^this

- 350ish mana just to activate the mana shield is bad.
- Audio discharge is only effective when used strategically. The large mana cost makes it hard to use and then still be able to do what else it is you need to do.
- The nuke silence is pretty useless. It doesn't last long at all (even though I'm pretty sure neco said that it would increase). And if the titan is going to nuke you, it's most likely going to be what finishes you off, anyway. You'll probably use your escape after the first hit.
- The windwalk is pretty clever, but I don't see tricking the builders and getting a minion to be a winning method.
- The ultimate, however, is pretty nice.

I do think that intellect items would be a great addition, though. If possible, It would be interesting to see them combine with a recipe of some sort into a "set". Maybe even different sets for different combinations. You could even add strength sets, too. They wouldn't use anything with a function like pearl or life essence, but instead just plain stat items. It could be something like:

- Set of the Titanic Mind: Combines the effects of [this], [this], and [this]. Costs (x) gold.