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« on: July 18, 2011, 01:54:59 PM »

I'm doing my whole darox-versions things again.

Suggestions, suggestions, suggestions, please.
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« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2011, 02:53:17 PM »

I'm doing my whole darox-versions things again.

Suggestions, suggestions, suggestions, please.
Could I ask why now?
And read the forum for the suggestions?

Because I think everything we suggestions is neco currently adding/editing in his verison so there's not much you can do now..?
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« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2011, 03:38:02 PM »

Make sure there are no game-breaking bugs and make your versions complete, quality >>>>> quantity. Spend time on your versions.
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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2011, 03:55:21 PM »

>Could I ask why now?
1) It's fun to edit
2) Mac compatibility
3) I want an opensource island defense

>Make sure there are no game-breaking bugs
Easier said than done.

>Spend time on your versions.
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« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2011, 06:29:07 PM »

What I want to see?

-Mid shops back, including tomes.
-Some old terrain.
-More people on forums, advertising the forums should be simple enough.  A larger community will keep this place running longer and there'll be more opinions to be heard.
-Less seeds, seriously though... why are there so many seeds?

there are more changes that I can think of, but these are the ones more important to me.
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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2011, 06:32:00 PM »

Don't think about content.

Perfect the terrain properly.

test newly added content properly.

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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2011, 09:21:25 PM »

Fuck the middle shops. Buying out all the items so the titan couldn't do shit was retarded back then and will be equally as retarded now. I can see wanting to buy tomes but I don't think it's worth nerfing the Titan like that. If you want to add back tomes, perhaps create a 5th shop with tomes of health/power or add them to the secret shop(wherever the fuck it's going to be).

Less seeds. For the love of god less seeds.

The problem with testing content properly is that most of it is left up to the beta testers which either usually do nothing (moi) or dick around for 5 minutes and then say it's OK.

Don't start the Quality/Quantity shit. In a perfect world a new version would be released each month with bug fixes and possibly new content. This is a sad, broken, fucked up world. Don't have high expectations for updates.

Forum advertising would be very nice... having the same people talking over and over again is getting a little boring. At the same time... we'll probably get more smighters and chocobos...
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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2011, 10:32:00 PM »

>Mid shops back, including tomes.
>Some old terrain.
>Less seeds, seriously though... why are there so many seeds?

>Less seeds. For the love of god less seeds.
These are done for me, this is based off of Darox's version.

>More people on forums, advertising the forums should be simple enough.  A larger community will keep this place running longer and there'll be more opinions to be heard.
Will do.

>test newly added content properly.
Easier said than done.

>health tomes
I'm thinking of a way to fix this.  In my opinion, buying things in the middle should be restricted to the Titan anyways, as it is the Titan's home, and he (or his minions) probably built the shops.  However, the core items (WotW, TP Staff, Tomes, etc) should still be available.
* Put them at the store with Yacopo (or right next to him)?
* Add in a vendor somewhere on the map?
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« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2011, 07:31:11 AM »

Go for it man!
I agree with most of what has been said.
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« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2011, 08:32:56 AM »

* Add in a vendor somewhere on the map?

That would be good. You could add something like smygarn's way on the water. So it's more traped and a way more risky to buy them.
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« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2011, 09:52:21 AM »

i believe panda only disabled vision of the middle shops to
-stop builders from buying items for the titan.  (not because you could buy one and then hide it so the titan would have to wait a while for it to restock cause the cooldowns are relatively short.)
-put the titans at a disadvantage because you knew what they were buying, for example if demo buys a windcatcher, the other builders would know.  (which did add more skill to the game)
-also discouraged lumber basing because you could always just gold, and buy items to sell for lumber.  (which i liked, even though its not fair)
-health tomes.

how bout tomes, and an increased restock time on stuff people can sell?  if the shop was at some far away location, i doubt i'd ever use it.  unless I was going there for an egg item, it wouldn't be worth the trouble.
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« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2011, 10:34:07 AM »

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* Add in a vendor somewhere on the map?
That would be good. You could add something like smygarn's way on the water. So it's more traped and a way more risky to buy them.

There are plenty of locations you can strap the secret shop to. Not being near mid is an assumed guarrante since we have had it at a far corner for the majority of time the game has been official (becoming a sort of unwritten rule). Im helping Neco upgrade the terrain to his map which I will continue when I get back home later tomorrow, and im set to complete it by friday... or saturday at most.

One detail I am sure everyone must have noticed after playing Neco's 3.0.8 is the shape of the map. Since we can see the surrounding waters, we now see how freaking square the island looks. I aim to fix that.
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« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2011, 12:40:56 PM »

Oh here is something.
Since the map is so much bigger, and lots of it is water, glac's tap is nerfed quite a bit. (Since sometimes it only hits water which doesn't help at all) Make it so that tap only hits a region on land.
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« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2011, 03:04:16 PM »

Just do what I did, put a seperate builder shop in mid and it's done, and you can have seperate prices for everything.
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« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2011, 07:23:23 PM »

i believe panda only disabled vision of the middle shops to
-stop builders from buying items for the titan.  (not because you could buy one and then hide it so the titan would have to wait a while for it to restock cause the cooldowns are relatively short.)
-put the titans at a disadvantage because you knew what they were buying, for example if demo buys a windcatcher, the other builders would know.  (which did add more skill to the game)
-also discouraged lumber basing because you could always just gold, and buy items to sell for lumber.  (which i liked, even though its not fair)
-health tomes.

how bout tomes, and an increased restock time on stuff people can sell?  if the shop was at some far away location, i doubt i'd ever use it.  unless I was going there for an egg item, it wouldn't be worth the trouble.
That strategy of buying up the items to deny the titan access to them was rarely used. Only used in high level inhouses really. Seeing as how those don't exist anymore I think shop should be moved back to da mid
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« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2011, 08:19:53 PM »

make one shop for the greedy golding builders, especially HP tomes, with 5 minutes (or longer) cooldown.

Let players qq'ing at each other, distract their attention, eventually get killed by titan.

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« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2011, 11:17:15 PM »

Pubs blow, end of story. make like an -EM mode thats default for the titan, and then there can be a normal mode.

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« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2011, 05:29:07 AM »

make one shop for the greedy golding builders, especially HP tomes, with 5 minutes (or longer) cooldown.

Let players qq'ing at each other, distract their attention, eventually get killed by titan.

thx.

Click makros > normal click = rage.

Make it like a random or so..?
If 5 people click on the tome that it randoms who get's it :0
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« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2011, 09:06:16 AM »

its based on delay..lets pretend i was playing on global-id, a bot where i have 1s delay.  even if i had a click macro, someone with no delay spamming the tome button would beat me.
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« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2011, 09:07:29 AM »

its based on delay..lets pretend i was playing on global-id, a bot where i have 1s delay.  even if i had a click macro, someone with no delay spamming the tome button would beat me.
Random would make it fair ;0
Else no1 excpet one player gets them.
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« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2011, 01:57:12 PM »

Or you could just not give them to the players at all  thumbs up
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« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2011, 02:39:45 PM »

Or you could just not give them to the players at all  thumbs up

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Make the tome shop to a movable unit or something magic-like.
An unit which would move time to time to an always different location (except middle) or a shop which can hide in the night .. If it's codeable it would be gud   Undecided
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« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2011, 02:44:30 PM »

Before I "took a break" there were 4 people editing island defense. It's been like 2-3 months and there all gone? Lulwtf
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« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2011, 02:47:45 PM »

Carn is... Carn.
sickle stopped and is now starting again
Smyg realized he can't program and so gave up (and joined with Neco)
Neco is still doing it.
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« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2011, 02:49:18 PM »

Carn is... Carn.
sickle stopped and is now starting again
Smyg realized he can't program and so gave up (and joined with Neco)
Neco is still doing it.
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