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« on: July 14, 2011, 03:18:11 PM »

Since ogre thing was brought back up and a few other things I decided to post this. Lets look at why nature and demon are able to kill minions so fast while ogre/draenei have much harder times.

Real quick order of effective hunting: Nature/Demon - Draenei - Ogre

1: Ability to slow/chase well
This is the biggest point in hunting minions. Minions are faster than almost everything a builder has (especially if given webbed feet). Both demon and nature have the ability to slow, while ogre and draenei lack it. If you can't slow/stop/catch up to the minion your army is food for the titan.

2: General cost/time
Nature
  • Can lumber very fast, and is fairly cheap to get an army out.
  • Fast set up time for an army
  • Requires very little gold
Demon
  • Part of his upgrade path/job
  • Is free after gold cost, which is low
Draenei
  • Cheaper gold cost than demon
  • Takes a fairly large toll on lumber
  • Long set up time (with old way, not so much with the floating orb)
Ogre
  • NO GOLD REQUIRED!!!!
  • Requires a huge amount of lumber
  • Long time for upgrades, as well as making the towers

3: Utility
Demon has the ability to nuke, as well as burning mana (from fel hound). Nature has an extremely powerful titan hunter along with blink on his army. Draenei has another awesome titan hunter, can set up army anywhere. Ogre is his towers..........


Kind of scattered, but should get the point across. The main point is that if the army cannot slow/stun/catch up to the minion, killing the minion is near impossible.
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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2011, 03:22:41 PM »

Yes, ogre is bad. There is no point is using his cats to hunt because any titan can run the mini, and the towers themselves are too clunky. However they do have a good amount of health.
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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2011, 06:36:42 PM »

Ogre, however, has arguably the best hunter in the game.
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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2011, 06:38:53 PM »

Ogre, however, has arguably the best hunter in the game.
I like Dreanei better.
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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2011, 06:43:39 PM »

Ogre, however, has arguably the best hunter in the game.
I like Dreanei better.
Soulburn > Overload.
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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2011, 07:48:39 PM »

Ogre, however, has arguably the best hunter in the game.
I like Dreanei better.
Soulburn > Overload.
Ogre's hunter is so great that a high level titan will 2/3 shot it Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2011, 11:02:06 PM »

Ogre is a broken concept.

Just remake him already.

Scrap catapults.  Give him normal towers, and let him build catapults, but make them stronger and require less upgrades.
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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2011, 07:02:00 AM »

Ogre is a broken concept.

i agree with sickle, but i dont want him to be removed. Dont turn him into a hunter plz.

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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2011, 10:44:57 AM »

When I random Ogre, I like to think back and pretend I'm a Progre Shadowdancer by banging the titan's wife all day instead of actually golding or basing.
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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2011, 11:33:59 AM »

My list of "Best hunters"

Draenie, Nature, orgre, mak (aura and tank hunter = easy ass trap) murloc, troll (ensnare anyone?), everyone else.
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« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2011, 03:07:39 PM »

how is ogres hunter good? soulburn is probably the worst hunter training. at least Gnoll gets + range and hp....
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