Perma invis titan

[SuramarXStealth]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LO2EYB1S

I don't know what this was but the guy said he found a bug. It occurs late in the game so fast forward if you can. Foss with perma invis even when attacking just isn't right O.o

[Gwypaas]

Omg now foss might have a chance to kill a base?!?!?!

This buff should stay since this is the only way foss will ever win.

[theholysmighter]

foss was imba witch asshole nerfed him

[Critikill]

Foss is the only titan I can play.

[SuramarXStealth]

Omg now foss might have a chance to kill a base?!?!?!

This buff should stay since this is the only way foss will ever win.

This shows how little you actually know about the game gwypaas. Foss was an amazing titan before neco changed him. Powerful minions, great early game base killing,a nd if your minions survived (which any decent player should have no problem with) you had a free healing ward that stacked for each minion you had.

Titan of the Crypt was classified as HARD for a reason.

[Aflacduck]

Omg now foss might have a chance to kill a base?!?!?!

This buff should stay since this is the only way foss will ever win.

This shows how little you actually know about the game gwypaas. Foss was an amazing titan before neco changed him. Powerful minions, great early game base killing,a nd if your minions survived (which any decent player should have no problem with) you had a free healing ward that stacked for each minion you had.

Titan of the Crypt was classified as HARD for a reason.

This shows how little you actually know about the game Suramar. Foss was a terrible titan before and after neco changed him. Minions that required to be high level to be decent, terrible base killing without them, and if your minions survived (which any decent builders should have no problem killing) you had an expensive, feed-taking healing ward that stacked with each minion you allowed to steal feed from your main titan.

Titan of the Crypt was classified as HARD because there is nobody that knows how to play him!

[Cruncher]

I know this has been said millions upon billions of times but, Foss needs some buffing and polishing and some new rims 

[SandStormer]

Titan of the Crypt was classified as HARD because there is nobody that knows how to play him!

i rarely lose as foss

sure hes hard to mass nuke with minions i end up doing 1 and them 4 more with them in the air.

pearl (give it to the minion when possible) + 4 super regen + armor of fate + stack damage tomes (dont burrow once u have got a tome as burrow removes it)

this build will lead you to victory, but there was the game it took 5 hours to win (so you need patience)

basically the strat i play is, get a minion as fast as you can (dont let it die) use it to farm around mid. while attacking lumberbases with the main ect for the game

once/if you get to the point, im level x with these items and i cant crack any base. attack walls over and over farm up gold finish the build

keep farming those walls on the base until you finish the build or stack enough tomes to dominate.

if there denying the walls on you wardblock them

its not a build you lose, unless you are inexperienced / greedy or just not patient enough.

[Aflacduck]

Titan of the Crypt was classified as HARD because there is nobody that knows how to play him!

i rarely lose as foss

sure hes hard to mass nuke with minions i end up doing 1 and them 4 more with them in the air.

pearl (give it to the minion when possible) + 4 super regen + armor of fate + stack damage tomes (dont burrow once u have got a tome as burrow removes it)

this build will lead you to victory, but there was the game it took 5 hours to win (so you need patience)

basically the strat i play is, get a minion as fast as you can (dont let it die) use it to farm around mid. while attacking lumberbases with the main ect for the game

once/if you get to the point, im level x with these items and i cant crack any base. attack walls over and over farm up gold finish the build

keep farming those walls on the base until you finish the build or stack enough tomes to dominate.

if there denying the walls on you wardblock them

its not a build you lose against unless you are inexperienced / greedy or just not patient enough.

You play pubs.

This is completely true.

Contrary to popular belief, just because foss has great regen with minions, that doesn't mean you should go for MORE with spines. Tridents are almost always better.

I could pick any titan and win any game in 5 hours. It is stupid as hell to stall a game for that long, and I usually leave games after 1 hour. The titan, in any practical sense, loses after 1 - 2 hours.

That's the general strategy for most titans.

Killing walls for gold only works on inexperienced players. Decent players will cut their walls down to the bare minimum level needed to keep the titan away and deny them.

An attrition game is not a win.

Then they turn around and kill the ward. Easy.


So basically, to win as Foss, you need to farm farm farm farm, then once you hit the bases, farm off of their walls for hours and then finally break in? What makes him good again? Any other titan can win a game in half the time.

[SandStormer]

i dont, i play with clannies / people that are inhouse standard more of the time

[SuramarXStealth]

Titan of the Crypt was classified as HARD because there is nobody that knows how to play him!

i rarely lose as foss

sure hes hard to mass nuke with minions i end up doing 1 and them 4 more with them in the air.

pearl (give it to the minion when possible) + 4 super regen + armor of fate + stack damage tomes (dont burrow once u have got a tome as burrow removes it)

this build will lead you to victory, but there was the game it took 5 hours to win (so you need patience)

basically the strat i play is, get a minion as fast as you can (dont let it die) use it to farm around mid. while attacking lumberbases with the main ect for the game

once/if you get to the point, im level x with these items and i cant crack any base. attack walls over and over farm up gold finish the build

keep farming those walls on the base until you finish the build or stack enough tomes to dominate.

if there denying the walls on you wardblock them

its not a build you lose against unless you are inexperienced / greedy or just not patient enough.

You play pubs.

This is completely true.

Contrary to popular belief, just because foss has great regen with minions, that doesn't mean you should go for MORE with spines. Tridents are almost always better.

I could pick any titan and win any game in 5 hours. It is stupid as hell to stall a game for that long, and I usually leave games after 1 hour. The titan, in any practical sense, loses after 1 - 2 hours.

That's the general strategy for most titans.

Killing walls for gold only works on inexperienced players. Decent players will cut their walls down to the bare minimum level needed to keep the titan away and deny them.

An attrition game is not a win.

Then they turn around and kill the ward. Easy.


So basically, to win as Foss, you need to farm farm farm farm, then once you hit the bases, farm off of their walls for hours and then finally break in? What makes him good again? Any other titan can win a game in half the time.

Aflac I really doubt it takes 5 hours to win as foss... All he needs are a few fates, A single spine, Life essence, and an abysmall. Then just set up minion cocoons right outside tower range and voila. With the perfect amount of regen and block it's easy to never go back to mound, and being so close it makes ganking cocoons impossible, especially with a fog gen or added luxory item. After you break the base just pop abysmal and you win. Granted it takes a lot of gold but ya know what? So does stacking tridents, so does massing regen/fates/combo items.

There's more than one way to play a titan, especially when your open to so many end game options because of the type of feed you got (IE: EXP/Gold feed.) You just have to adjust.

[SandStormer]

Titan of the Crypt was classified as HARD because there is nobody that knows how to play him!

i rarely lose as foss

sure hes hard to mass nuke with minions i end up doing 1 and them 4 more with them in the air.

pearl (give it to the minion when possible) + 4 super regen + armor of fate + stack damage tomes (dont burrow once u have got a tome as burrow removes it)

this build will lead you to victory, but there was the game it took 5 hours to win (so you need patience)

basically the strat i play is, get a minion as fast as you can (dont let it die) use it to farm around mid. while attacking lumberbases with the main ect for the game

once/if you get to the point, im level x with these items and i cant crack any base. attack walls over and over farm up gold finish the build

keep farming those walls on the base until you finish the build or stack enough tomes to dominate.

if there denying the walls on you wardblock them

its not a build you lose against unless you are inexperienced / greedy or just not patient enough.

You play pubs.

This is completely true.

Contrary to popular belief, just because foss has great regen with minions, that doesn't mean you should go for MORE with spines. Tridents are almost always better.

I could pick any titan and win any game in 5 hours. It is stupid as hell to stall a game for that long, and I usually leave games after 1 hour. The titan, in any practical sense, loses after 1 - 2 hours.

That's the general strategy for most titans.

Killing walls for gold only works on inexperienced players. Decent players will cut their walls down to the bare minimum level needed to keep the titan away and deny them.

An attrition game is not a win.

Then they turn around and kill the ward. Easy.


So basically, to win as Foss, you need to farm farm farm farm, then once you hit the bases, farm off of their walls for hours and then finally break in? What makes him good again? Any other titan can win a game in half the time.

Aflac I really doubt it takes 5 hours to win as foss... All he needs are a few fates, A single spine, Life essence, and an abysmall. Then just set up minion cocoons right outside tower range and voila. With the perfect amount of regen and block it's easy to never go back to mound, and being so close it makes ganking cocoons impossible, especially with a fog gen or added luxory item. After you break the base just pop abysmal and you win. Granted it takes a lot of gold but ya know what? So does stacking tridents, so does massing regen/fates/combo items.

There's more than one way to play a titan, especially when your open to so many end game options because of the type of feed you got (IE: EXP/Gold feed.) You just have to adjust.

some players are hard to kill and to clarify it dosnt take 5 hours to win, that was a one off i was useing as an example that you need patience.

most games take around the hour point. basically if you get foss dont expect a short game unless everyone is a pub

blaize(ogre) and (bim(tauren) with a few kills) were insanely difficult to kill through all the worker blocks, attempted wallin's the harrassing of the minions ect. i remember i ended up useing my wards solely to wardblock the tauren from walling me in at one stage.

[Zen1400]

Foss is a bad titan. It is as simple as that. Yes he can be great if there is feed around and you can level up your minions to 6, the problem is he is only good if that happens.

lets compare the 2 titans that actually rely on minions, foss and demon.

Demon & Foss both have best early base destruction potential

Demon:
Heal is shit except for once you get minions
Not able to ww kill builders unless they run into you by chance
Great scouting ability
Minions only need to be level 2 to be effective all other feed can go to titan
Decent unqiue

Foss:
Great heal
Shit ww, better than demon's
Has to level ww if he wants it to be more effective
Shitty scout
REQUIRES MINIONS to be fed if he wants to even be a threat


And let me point this out, this is comparing Foss to a sub par titan. Foss never stands a chance against syph in comparing titans.

[SuramarXStealth]

Foss is a bad titan. It is as simple as that. Yes he can be great if there is feed around and you can level up your minions to 6, the problem is he is only good if that happens.

lets compare the 2 titans that actually rely on minions, foss and demon.

Demon & Foss both have best early base destruction potential

Foss:
Great heal
No ww, better than demon's
Has to level ww HEAL if he wants it to be more effective
Shitty scout
REQUIRES MINIONS to be fed if he wants to even be a threat


And let me point this out, this is comparing Foss to a sub par titan. Foss never stands a chance against syph in comparing titans.

People always mistake burrow as a ww spell, its not. IT IS A HEALING SPELL THAT GIVES YOU INVIS!

[kyleep]

Heh, noobs don't know how to play foss.

[SuramarXStealth]

Heh, noobs don't know how to play foss.

What are you doing there? O.o just unburrowing at 2min in.

[Aflacduck]

Foss is a bad titan. It is as simple as that. Yes he can be great if there is feed around and you can level up your minions to 6, the problem is he is only good if that happens.

lets compare the 2 titans that actually rely on minions, foss and demon.

Demon & Foss both have best early base destruction potential

Foss:
Great heal
No ww, better than demon's
Has to level ww HEAL if he wants it to be more effective
Shitty scout
REQUIRES MINIONS to be fed if he wants to even be a threat


And let me point this out, this is comparing Foss to a sub par titan. Foss never stands a chance against syph in comparing titans.

People always mistake burrow as a ww spell, its not. IT IS A HEALING SPELL THAT GIVES YOU INVIS!

You're splitting hairs. Foss' "heal" works as a WW if you use WotW.

[Frankjg]

Foss works great, he just has a different play style than other titans. People can't seem to adapt to change very well.

[Gwypaas]

Titan of the Crypt was classified as HARD because there is nobody that knows how to play him!

i rarely lose as foss

sure hes hard to mass nuke with minions i end up doing 1 and them 4 more with them in the air.

pearl (give it to the minion when possible) + 4 super regen + armor of fate + stack damage tomes (dont burrow once u have got a tome as burrow removes it)

this build will lead you to victory, but there was the game it took 5 hours to win (so you need patience)

basically the strat i play is, get a minion as fast as you can (dont let it die) use it to farm around mid. while attacking lumberbases with the main ect for the game

once/if you get to the point, im level x with these items and i cant crack any base. attack walls over and over farm up gold finish the build

keep farming those walls on the base until you finish the build or stack enough tomes to dominate.

if there denying the walls on you wardblock them

its not a build you lose against unless you are inexperienced / greedy or just not patient enough.

You play pubs.

This is completely true.

Contrary to popular belief, just because foss has great regen with minions, that doesn't mean you should go for MORE with spines. Tridents are almost always better.

I could pick any titan and win any game in 5 hours. It is stupid as hell to stall a game for that long, and I usually leave games after 1 hour. The titan, in any practical sense, loses after 1 - 2 hours.

That's the general strategy for most titans.

Killing walls for gold only works on inexperienced players. Decent players will cut their walls down to the bare minimum level needed to keep the titan away and deny them.

An attrition game is not a win.

Then they turn around and kill the ward. Easy.


So basically, to win as Foss, you need to farm farm farm farm, then once you hit the bases, farm off of their walls for hours and then finally break in? What makes him good again? Any other titan can win a game in half the time.

Aflac I really doubt it takes 5 hours to win as foss... All he needs are a few fates, A single spine, Life essence, and an abysmall. Then just set up minion cocoons right outside tower range and voila. With the perfect amount of regen and block it's easy to never go back to mound, and being so close it makes ganking cocoons impossible, especially with a fog gen or added luxory item. After you break the base just pop abysmal and you win. Granted it takes a lot of gold but ya know what? So does stacking tridents, so does massing regen/fates/combo items.

There's more than one way to play a titan, especially when your open to so many end game options because of the type of feed you got (IE: EXP/Gold feed.) You just have to adjust.

Try to get those items in an inhouse which isn't some scrub euro clan or some Peid derivative. (Toid)

[TheNoobRage]

I never understood why Foss wasn't given a Dark Swarm type ability that allowed him to use burrow after GP.

[SandStormer]

Titan of the Crypt was classified as HARD because there is nobody that knows how to play him!

i rarely lose as foss

sure hes hard to mass nuke with minions i end up doing 1 and them 4 more with them in the air.

pearl (give it to the minion when possible) + 4 super regen + armor of fate + stack damage tomes (dont burrow once u have got a tome as burrow removes it)

this build will lead you to victory, but there was the game it took 5 hours to win (so you need patience)

basically the strat i play is, get a minion as fast as you can (dont let it die) use it to farm around mid. while attacking lumberbases with the main ect for the game

once/if you get to the point, im level x with these items and i cant crack any base. attack walls over and over farm up gold finish the build

keep farming those walls on the base until you finish the build or stack enough tomes to dominate.

if there denying the walls on you wardblock them

its not a build you lose against unless you are inexperienced / greedy or just not patient enough.

You play pubs.

This is completely true.

Contrary to popular belief, just because foss has great regen with minions, that doesn't mean you should go for MORE with spines. Tridents are almost always better.

I could pick any titan and win any game in 5 hours. It is stupid as hell to stall a game for that long, and I usually leave games after 1 hour. The titan, in any practical sense, loses after 1 - 2 hours.

That's the general strategy for most titans.

Killing walls for gold only works on inexperienced players. Decent players will cut their walls down to the bare minimum level needed to keep the titan away and deny them.

An attrition game is not a win.

Then they turn around and kill the ward. Easy.


So basically, to win as Foss, you need to farm farm farm farm, then once you hit the bases, farm off of their walls for hours and then finally break in? What makes him good again? Any other titan can win a game in half the time.

Aflac I really doubt it takes 5 hours to win as foss... All he needs are a few fates, A single spine, Life essence, and an abysmall. Then just set up minion cocoons right outside tower range and voila. With the perfect amount of regen and block it's easy to never go back to mound, and being so close it makes ganking cocoons impossible, especially with a fog gen or added luxory item. After you break the base just pop abysmal and you win. Granted it takes a lot of gold but ya know what? So does stacking tridents, so does massing regen/fates/combo items.

There's more than one way to play a titan, especially when your open to so many end game options because of the type of feed you got (IE: EXP/Gold feed.) You just have to adjust.

yes i know, hence the 5 hours it was an inhouse game
Try to get those items in an inhouse which isn't some scrub euro clan or some Peid derivative. (Toid)

[Aflacduck]

Who the hell plays for 5 hours. That's such a dick move as titan. The titan can't lose if he just waits long enough.

[SandStormer]

Who the hell plays for 5 hours. That's such a dick move as titan. The titan can't lose if he just waits long enough.

i wasnt loseing, nor were they it was a stale mate

[Coaster_Man]

Who the hell plays for 5 hours. That's such a dick move as titan. The titan can't lose if he just waits long enough.

i wasnt loseing, nor were they it was a stale mate

if the titan is strong enough to kill a few walls and run without dying he can eventually win for obvious reasons, but it is douche move, and as builder I'd just leave and let him have his "win"

[Frankjg]

Who the hell plays for 5 hours. That's such a dick move as titan. The titan can't lose if he just waits long enough.

i wasnt loseing, nor were they it was a stale mate

if the titan is strong enough to kill a few walls and run without dying he can eventually win for obvious reasons, but it is douche move, and as builder I'd just leave and let him have his "win"

Yeah, I agree. Titan not being able to break a base isn't a stalemate. If there is no more feed and he can't get em with nukes, then he loses. I don't think this was designed to be played that long. Besides, a builder could easily just deny the walls if he sees you doing that.