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« on: May 15, 2011, 03:37:29 PM »

Ogre's pretty useless. Even Murloc and Makrura bases are better than Ogres when it comes to numbers.
But it's only better than Tauren's basing due to mass of numbers and small size, while Tauren's tauren are pretty large and completely outnumbered by Ogre's towers.

Also, fully upgraded catapult towers deals like 10 damage to a fully upgraded Ogre Hunter.
Out of no reason, 12 of 'em deals at least 100-120 damage to a fully upgraded Ogre Hunter...

Few ways to possibly improve Ogre:


Improving the Titan Hunter
+ Give it Splash Damage of an Area of 300 when it attacks.
+ Minor change the Soul Burn (Titan Expert Hunter Training); When the enemy is targeted by Soul Burn; any allied units nearby of a range of 175 will be burnt by 2% HP until it separates from the targeted unit.
+ Give Blink an additional side-effect; Every time he blinks, causes a splash damage of 50 damage in an area of 250.
+ Make him Spell Immune at Level 4 or 5.
+ Change the Auto-Repair Ability; Cast a spell onto a building or structure, allowing it to restore 100 HP. Costs 100 MP & 5 second CD, Range of 500.
+ Change its armor to Fortified with Expert Hunter Training.

Improving the Catapult
+ Change the Piercing Damage into Siege Damage, to deny other towers and such more faster.
+ Give it Splash Damage, of an area of 200.
+ Give it an Upgrade in order to have Splash Damage + Incinerate, causing units within the area of 200 to lose 2% HP/s, lasting 3 seconds. Unstackable.
+ Give it a longer range of 1000.
+ Increase the Damage of the towers, but causes it to be slower.

Improving the Builder
+ Change its Armor permanently to Fortified with an Upgrade at the Research Center
+ Decrease the Cooldown of Bloodlust.
+ Increase the AoE of Fart by 25-100.

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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2011, 05:25:54 PM »

Makrura has beast bases
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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2011, 06:38:23 PM »

Make speed upgrade increase attack speed
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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2011, 08:05:42 PM »

Make speed upgrade increase attack speed

To be honest, when I upgraded the Ogre Catapult's movement speed, it wasn't really much. I doubt anyone really uses catapult to actually hunt. If someone did, it wasn't the best movement speed you would really use to hunt for a mini, since it's harder to run away when you've got a low movement speed, and titan goes and feeds on it. At least it have 640 HP.
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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2011, 08:10:14 PM »

I think a pretty cool concept would be to allow moving catapults to load the ogre then fire him away.


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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2011, 04:07:23 AM »

I think a pretty cool concept would be to allow moving catapults to load the ogre then fire him away.


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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2011, 12:49:30 PM »

I think a pretty cool concept would be to allow moving catapults to load the ogre then fire him away.


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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2011, 04:31:53 PM »

I think a pretty cool concept would be to allow moving catapults to load the ogre then fire him away.


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Catapult that shoots the Ogre Hunter and causes 200 damage onto the ground?

Cool idea.
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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2011, 05:06:31 PM »

I think a pretty cool concept would be to allow moving catapults to load the ogre then fire him away.


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Catapult that shoots the Ogre builder and causes 200 damage onto the ground?

Cool idea.
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« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2011, 07:22:13 PM »

make it with a cool 3D animation and I vouch
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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2011, 04:23:46 AM »

And a goofy ogre laughing noise with it  Grin
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« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2011, 02:54:05 AM »

Give ogre's towers stackable damage over time, will still be original and sexy.

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« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2011, 03:40:09 AM »

give ogre forti armor Smiley
and a unique arc tower upgrade
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« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2011, 01:20:07 PM »

I think a pretty cool concept would be to allow moving catapults to load the ogre then fire him away.


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Hell yes. Double vouch.
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« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2011, 03:45:11 PM »

I think a pretty cool concept would be to allow moving catapults to load the ogre then fire him away.


Just saying :S
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Best idea ever!
vouch

Hell yes. Double vouch.

Nth Vouch.
That makes Ogre Hunter more useful. Tongue
Would be funny if you can pack up workers then do that.
Then yeah, kind of like Morph tower except you're throwing workers for suicide.
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« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2011, 06:33:42 PM »

it would be kinda OP to have 25 workers just sent at the same time for 200 damage each for free.
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« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2011, 08:00:52 PM »

it would be kinda OP to have 25 workers just sent at the same time for 200 damage each for free.
just sayin'

It takes like a pretty long time to reload a builder, QFT.
Besides, it might end up taking 20 seconds to reload a worker.
But yeah.
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« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2011, 09:49:32 AM »

it would be kinda OP to have 25 workers just sent at the same time for 200 damage each for free.
just sayin'

It takes like a pretty long time to reload a builder, QFT.
Besides, it might end up taking 20 seconds to reload a worker.
But yeah.
even that, if your already ready and youve got your 200 workers ready when titan comes, its an easy kill
25*200 = 5000
Thats a shitload even tho theres a long reload time.
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« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2011, 10:16:23 AM »

it would be kinda OP to have 25 workers just sent at the same time for 200 damage each for free.
just sayin'

It takes like a pretty long time to reload a builder, QFT.
Besides, it might end up taking 20 seconds to reload a worker.
But yeah.
even that, if your already ready and youve got your 200 workers ready when titan comes, its an easy kill
25*200 = 5000
Thats a shitload even tho theres a long reload time.
well, 30 tower base has 20 workers, but still yes,
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« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2011, 12:42:27 PM »

How about they can throw your builder like 1,000 and stun any one in the landing zone for 2seconds?
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« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2011, 12:55:19 PM »

Better idea, make it 5 damage each or something and a 10 second reload time, Primarily used as an escape ability for the ogre.
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« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2011, 01:12:46 PM »

How about they can throw your builder like 1,000 and stun any one in the landing zone for 2seconds?
that would be good, but maybe 2 is too much, make it 1.5
even with 1.5 i think you can get back in your base is you dont fuck arround too much.
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« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2011, 01:47:10 PM »

NO i mean to have a catapult near by at all times so you can chuck your ogre to safety
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« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2011, 02:46:12 PM »

he means 1000 range
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« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2011, 04:29:49 PM »

we understood that playerof, we are saying our suggestion right now.
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