The Sludge Builder

[Cruncher]

The Sludge Builder

I'm aware I've been suggesting alot(like overly alot) but i have all these great ideas and i can't keep them contained. But next up. Sludge Man

Sludge Builder washed up on the shores after being released from the depths by all of the titanic activity. Now he has come to stop the titans and return to rest.

Not only is this builder unappealing to fight, hes just as unappealing to attack

Stats

HP:250
MP:0
Movement Speed:300
Damage:125-125

Type:Piercing

Armor:0

Type:Unarmored

Collects 10 lumber per hit for 20 lumber

Abilities

Expand
Permanently raises the health of the builder by 50, adds 30 mana, adds 8 movement speed and 7 range. 8 minute/480 second cooldown. Takes 10 seconds to channel

Absorb
The builder takes damage until he reaches 1 health, at that point all damage is negated, including spells. Lasts 8 seconds.

Muck
The builder has a very sludgy body causing any enemy that attacks it to have 15% reduced attack speed for 10 seconds

Toxic Strike
The builder's strikes have a deadly toxin in them slowing the titan for 10% slowing attack and movement speed. Lasts 10 seconds.Stacks up to 8 times, Idea by Pony.

Ooze-(Requires Ooze)Causes the builder's body thicken, reducing physical damage taken to 1%. Lasts 5 seconds

Sludge Armor-(Requires Sludge Armor) An allied targetted unit gains the absorb ability for 5 seconds

Sludge Bomb(Requires Sludge Bomb)Throw a Sludge Bomb which causes titan to take 4 hp/s over time while blinding (20% chance to miss) for 10 seconds. Idea by Jux.Mage

Buildings

Shelter- 5 lumber
Trains Harvesters,Collectors and Providers.Doesn't provide drop-off point

Harvester-7 food, Harvests 2 lumber for 10 lumber total. 50 health
Collector-5 lumber Provides lumber drop-off point.1x1 200 health
Provider-20 lumber Provides 20 food. 20-20 damage.2x2 300 health

Collectors and providers have 200 movement speed.
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Research Center
Grimy Body-2 gold 750 lumber/ 3 gold 750 lumber/ 5 gold 750 lumber
Gives the Builder a 25/30/35% chance to take 25/30/35% damage
Viscous Sludge-1000 lumber
Gives the builder 2 armor and Muck
Slimy-1/1/1 gold 500/600/700 lumber
Gives the builder a 5/10/15% chance to evade an attack
Gunk Armor-2 gold 750 lumber
Gives the builder an extra 2 armor and fortified armor
Inotropic-600 lumber/2 gold 500 lumber/3 gold 750 lumber/5 gold 1000 lumber
Increases the builders attack speed by 15/15/20/25% for 6/7/8/9 seconds

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Sludge Wall-50
250 health 5 armor. When attacked reduces attack speed by 5%. Lasts 3 seconds. Doesn't stack

Thick Sludge Wall-250 lumber
500 health 15 armor. When attacked reduced attack speed by 8% and damage by 3%. Lasts 3 seconds. Doesn't stack
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Merchant
Gives Merchant Units and Gold Towers
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ARC-25 gold 1500 lumber
Ooze-(1000 lumber)Causes the builder's body thicken, Giving it Ooze
Sludge Armor-(5 gold 1000 lumber) Allows the Builder to use sludge armor
Sludge Bomb- (600 lumber) Allows the builder to cast sludge bomb
Accelerated Growth(5 gold 1000 lumber)
Decreases the cooldown of Expand by 100 seconds
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Sludge Launcher-90 gold 2500 lumber

Mud Slinger-90 gold 2500 lumber
Damaged enemy units have sight range reduced to 300 for 5 seconds.
Transmute:Gives Mud Skin Aura
Gives 15 damage reduction to all nearby units in 550 AOE(stacks with builders reduction 1 time)

Hell's Design-90 gold 2500 lumber

[VAMPSI]

I like it, but glacis slow poison will screw you up when absorb is used

[Cruncher]

I like it, but glacis slow poison will screw you up when absorb is used

All you have to do is make sure the poison runs out before absorb does

[Jux.Mage]

...And where's the drop-off point?...

[Cruncher]

...And where's the drop-off point?...

The collectors are the dropoff points

[Smygarn]

Looks like a rather bold concept.
Mutating slime that can expand its qualities every 10 minutes and loss of attack speed when attacking.
Im not too sure if the loss in attack speed is quite worth it, its like an extra you wont be trying to exploit.

To support the concept, I suggest you add in something that encourages this builder to confront a titan and suffer hits.
For instance:

The Sludge builder slows the target unit by 15% with each attack. With every attack, the Sludge Builder slows more intensively and should the target unit attack back, it suffers an increasing loss of attack speed by the same degree.
Lasts 6 seconds.
And if you throw in an upgrade that gives the Sludge Builder fortified armor or an ability that resists physical damage, that would be great as well (It does lack a static shape after all).

This would encourage the Sludge Builder to go forth and strike a Titan, knowing it has a stacking slow in movement speed and attack speed, should the Titan retaliate.

[Cruncher]

Looks like a rather bold concept.
Mutating slime that can expand its qualities every 10 minutes and loss of attack speed when attacking.
Im not too sure if the loss in attack speed is quite worth it, its like an extra you wont be trying to exploit.

To support the concept, I suggest you add in something that encourages this builder to confront a titan and suffer hits.
For instance:

The Sludge builder slows the target unit by 15% with each attack. With every attack, the Sludge Builder slows more intensively and should the target unit attack back, it suffers an increasing loss of attack speed by the same degree.
Lasts 6 seconds.
And if you throw in an upgrade that gives the Sludge Builder fortified armor
Actually i was going to add that but i guess i forgot to

This would encourage the Sludge Builder to go forth and strike a Titan, knowing it has a stacking slow in movement speed and attack speed, should the Titan retaliate.

And that attack speed thing is fairly good, i'll add its concept in
But i don't know where u saw his attack speped decreases i never said that

[Jux.Mage]

Sludge Bomb Please.

Throw a Sludge Bomb which causes titan to take 2 hp/s over time for ## seconds while blinding (30% chance to miss) for 15 seconds.

[Cruncher]

Sludge Bomb Please.

Throw a Sludge Bomb which causes titan to take 2 hp/s over time for ## seconds while blinding (30% chance to miss) for 15 seconds.

Im not sure but i think thats from pokemon


But yeah that'll make him better at mini hunting

[Smygarn]

I saw the attack speed decrease on this one:

Muck
The builder has a very sludgy body causing any enemy that attacks it to have 15% reduced attack speed for 10 seconds.

Seeing as how the sludge builder is conceptually built, giving it stacking slows would actually be quite ideal.
Movement slowing the target unit when attacking it in my suggestive idea, and the enemy unit being slowed in attack speed when retaliating against the Sludge Builder.
In this ability, its set to 10 seconds but if its gonna stack like I imagine, 4-6 seconds is enough considering weak individual slows.

What would add to this concept would either be fortified armour or an ability that absorbs physical damage, like the Mountain Giants reduce physical damage.
Secondly, this builder would definitly be a hit if he had an upgrade that increases his attack speed, say 15% with 3-5 possible research Levels.

With these ideas conjoined to the Sludgy little bastard, he can use his slime and goo to practically lock a Titan in place... Assuming he can catch up with one.

[Cruncher]

I saw the attack speed decrease on this one:

Muck
The builder has a very sludgy body causing any enemy that attacks it to have 15% reduced attack speed for 10 seconds.

Seeing as how the sludge builder is conceptually built, giving it stacking slows would actually be quite ideal.
Movement slowing the target unit when attacking it in my suggestive idea, and the enemy unit being slowed in attack speed when retaliating against the Sludge Builder.
In this ability, its set to 10 seconds but if its gonna stack like I imagine, 4-6 seconds is enough considering weak individual slows.

What would add to this concept would either be fortified armour or an ability that absorbs physical damage, like the Mountain Giants reduce physical damage.
Secondly, this builder would definitly be a hit if he had an upgrade that increases his attack speed, say 15% with 3-5 possible research Levels.

With these ideas conjoined to the Sludgy little bastard, he can use his slime and goo to practically lock a Titan in place... Assuming he can catch up with one.

I agree this guy would be a real pain to hurt
If i were titan and i came to mound and everyone was golding, i'd attack him last because of Absorb and his slows

Btw look it over
He has a fortified armor upgrade and a damage reduction
Check for Grimy body upgrade and Gunk Armor

[Smygarn]

Thats a fairly great concept you are building up, throw in more conceptual upgrades and it will just get better.

Consider my suggestion of throwing in +AS upgrades, and I would recommend in this reply as well, to throw in a second upgrade that allows for improved chances of ignoring damage.

[Frankjg]

I absolutely love this builder concept. Seems he could be really fun to play, and frankly, I hope he gets implemented.

[Smygarn]

Well, I would not really hold my breath on the idea of it getting implemented.
Suggestions are in the end suggestions, and concepts may be built upon several suggestions.

Still if Cruncher likes, I could produce an ingame template map for the Sludge Builder.

[VAMPSI]

Do it 

[Cruncher]

Well, I would not really hold my breath on the idea of it getting implemented.
Suggestions are in the end suggestions, and concepts may be built upon several suggestions.

Still if Cruncher likes, I could produce an ingame template map for the Sludge Builder.

Im sure it'd be better than if i did it
Go for it i wanna see how cool it'd be
so long as it doesn't interfere with your terraining, thats more important

[Smygarn]

Template map means a short work map that you can design your builder on.
Its better than a flat terrain.

I wont be designing the builder for you, just giving you a map to do it yourself on.
If you want me to design the builder however, you are going to be waiting until Topright on ScII ID atleast is finished.

EDIT: I uploaded the map for you, as well as initiating a game concept.

[Supapker5555]

An idea worth talking about by cruncher. Hm. Well I like it. Hes different his slows could actually make a base if titan were stupid enuf to attack him. Interesting i like the sludge model good idea on the living food sources and drop of points. Now if someone important notices him, he has a higher chance then most suggestions. And one quick question , the moving food sources and drop off points how much exp would they yield titan and how much gold if killed?

[Cruncher]

An idea worth talking about by cruncher. Hm. Well I like it. Hes different his slows could actually make a base if titan were stupid enuf to attack him. Interesting i like the sludge model good idea on the living food sources and drop of points. Now if someone important notices him, he has a higher chance then most suggestions. And one quick question , the moving food sources and drop off points how much exp would they yield titan and how much gold if killed?

1 gold for collector, 2 gold for provider, and both are equal to fruit tree exp.

[Supapker5555]

Ok that seems good ty for clearin it up

[sburnett21]

So this builder is mainly a slowing and evading pain-in-the-ass against titan? sounds funner than most builders. Can the providers move though? or are they just stuck in place?

[MuDDy_PaNDa]

ID needs diversity and i do think that this fits it well.

Gj cruncher, another good suggestion.

[Cruncher]

So this builder is mainly a slowing and evading pain-in-the-ass against titan? sounds funner than most builders. Can the providers move though? or are they just stuck in place?

Providers can move

ID needs diversity and i do think that this fits it well.

Gj cruncher, another good suggestion.

Thanks, I try moderately hard to make them good

[sburnett21]

So this builder is mainly a slowing and evading pain-in-the-ass against titan? sounds funner than most builders. Can the providers move though? or are they just stuck in place?

Providers can move

so you can make a bunch of food sources, and the move them along to help kill a mini? That sounds pretty good.

[Cruncher]

So this builder is mainly a slowing and evading pain-in-the-ass against titan? sounds funner than most builders. Can the providers move though? or are they just stuck in place?

Providers can move

so you can make a bunch of food sources, and the move them along to help kill a mini? That sounds pretty good.

I suppose.... but they are slow as fuck, 100 movement speed.