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PEW PEW Clark Kent
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« on: October 26, 2010, 05:02:20 PM »

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Welcome to my thread

I was washing some dishes and i just had a random mass of ideas pushing their way through my head. Yes I know it's rather sad! I had thoughts about builders and abilities, so i thought i would share them with everyone to see what you think.

WARNING: When it comes to map balancing i am useless with numbers and balancing, so every ability i have suggested i have a negative (con) that comes with every ability to balance it. I did my best, so here goes.


Builder of Space and Time

Class: COMPLETELY Defensive/escape Support - No offensive capabilities whatsoever.

Description: This creature has been wandering through the dimensions for many centuries restoring damaged time and space, and destroying imbalances in the space/time continuum. It wandered in to the island but can not leave as the titans power that radiates through the island stops it leaving. The builder has very powerful abilities but they come at a price... Can you and your allies afford to risk it?

Building



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Shelter: (lumbering) Size 2x2. Harvests lumber by himself. He recieves 35 lumber per hit. Shelter cost 30 wood.



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Reserch Centre: Size 4x4. Contains several upgrades for the builder to learn.



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Woven Time Wall: Using his ability to manipulate time and space, he is able to weave a dense wall out of the very fabric of space and time which the titan must break through.

Unupgraded - Hp: 250    Armour 5 Fortified
Upgraded    - HP: 450    Armour 15 Fortified                                         COST: 35 Food. Can only have four. the last 10 food is for somehing else later on in the guide.


Ability Reserch:

Dimensional shift: Costs 15 gold 750 Lumber.

Time Shield: Starts at 15% but can upgrade by 2% with 5 gold and 250 lumber per upgrade. Max 35% Chance.

Time Distortion/Dialation Field:

First upgrade Cost - 25 gold 1500 lumber
Second Upgrade Cost - 35 gold 2250 lumber +(?)% slow / + 1 second duration
Third Upgrade Cost -  50 Gold 2500 lumber   +(?)% slow / + 1 second duration


Time Aura: Cost: 20 gold 1000 lumber

Slows down enemies in a small area arround him. Gives more slow than seaweed aura but the AoE is reduced by 70%.


Summon Space/Time anomaly (cant spell)

Cost: 90 gold 3500 Lumber. Allows him to summon a creature from another dimension. Costs 10 food. It can harvest lumber for him, gathering 35 lumber every hit, but is slightly slower than the main builder. Seen as though he needs a lot of wood, it may be a good choice to get this upgrade.


Abilities:


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Escape ability: Dimensional shift

Two posssible ways the ability can work.

1.The creature can open up a portal in which the builders can run in to, taking them to a random spot on the map (a bit like nether warp). CON - Could end up in the hands of a hungry minion somewhere Tongue

2. The creature must create a tear in the space time continuum at a point on the map after he creates his portal, the portal will then be useable by the builders and they will end up at the point of the tear.
    
    CON: Since he has to make the portal then the tear, it is very risky as it will take longer to use the ability, possibly giving the titan a chance to kill you beforehand.

                  Q: Wont that just allow them to cast it at the gold mine allowing everyone to escape?
                  A: Well... remember earlier when i mentioned the abilities come at a price? Well... Read on and you'll see what i mean.


1. When the time builder creates portal, it does (150?) AoE damage in a large radius to all builders inside. This means that the builders will be very vulnerable to the titan either it be nuke or a titanic fist up the arse.

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Portal does 0 Damage when summoned but replaced by the following

a. Only builders under a certain maxumum HP can enter the portal, or their dense bodies full of vitality are literally turned inside out by the harsh conditions of the space/time continuum.

b. Upon entering the portal, the builder has a 100% chance to recieve (35?)% of their maximum HP in damage.

c. The harsh conditions put more strain on the body the further distance the builder travels, so every (1000?) distance the builder will recieve +(10)% of their maximum HP?




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Slow ability: Time Distortion/Dialation Field

The builder can create an AoE field of space/time distortion, slowing every enemy by 35% of their movement speed. As a consequence, it also  slows the builders by 10%

Also.. builders in the field who try to build will have their build/repair time increased by (100?)% So if a builder used it in a base, it would be really effective versus a titan but the downfall is if they use it in walls to slow titan or whatever, it also slows the builder and his building time making him more vulnerable to nukes/melee from titan/ward block etc etc.




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Escape ability: Time Shield -

Using microscopic chronotons - Basically have a chance to travel back in time and reverse the last bit of damage done to the builder by the titan. (15?)% chance.



Damage: 45-45 Damage. Gold upgrade to increase to 70-70 damage. This is to help remove any offensive capability as he is meant to be strictly support.



Conclusion:

This builder has some very powerful escape skills which can help other builders as well as himself but it requires not only him, but other builders to actually think about what theyre doing, and actually using their heads because the abilities themselves have the power to take their lives as well as saving them.



Evaluation:

Pros: 1.Overpowered escape allowing multiple builders to esacape at the mound
        2.Slowing field can severely fuck the titan/ minion(s) over.

Cons: 1.If a builder is already on low health and enters the portal, or the portal is summoned near a low hp builder, it can get them killed.
         2.Slowing field can severely fuck the builder(s) over.

Builder is meant to be powerful when used right but it is very very risky not just to the builder but to everyone else arround him. Whether this builder makes it to the map is not an issue for me.

I would quite easily settle for the satisfaction of a few people taking their time to read my thread for which i have worked hard on, and saying "hey, you know.. some of these are actually quite good ideas"

As i said before im clueless with balancing and numbers when it comes to like how much damage should be dealt, or the percent chance of something happening, so if anyone thinks an ability concept is good, but could use some changes with the numbers then please, feel free to give me some consructive feedback/criticism.

Thanks for taking the time to read my thread!

If anyone so happens to complain about it being stupid as there is a similar suggestion for a titan, then just remember. There are two water titans. There are two water builders (makrura/murloc). There is an ice (glacious) titan. There is an ice (magnataur) builder. See my point? Tongue
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carnerox
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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2010, 05:30:55 PM »

I'm saying my own opinion on this..

This builder is shit, you even stole an ability from Dota which is stupid..
Your setup makes it really hard to read, you even have no icons and models.. And you even gave it no structures.. I don't know if that was meant to be, because I didn't bother reading the whole thing.
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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2010, 05:35:02 PM »

Well thanks for your opinion. At least it was honest. This wasn't meant to be a full on builder suggestion to be implemented, but merely some creative ideas which could be used or have another ability based on one or two of them. And as for making it hard to read, im not really sure how i would make it easier to read, but if you could re rrange it so its easier for people to read then i would be more than grateful! And as for icons, where would i get those?
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2010, 05:38:57 PM »

I'm not going to take my time to re-arrage the the suggestion, but icons can be found at ScrollsofLore.com

I will lock this until you complete it.
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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2010, 06:44:48 PM »

Well, im going to bed now, so thats enough editing my post for now. Will do some more tomorrow. And as for the icons, ill get some tomorrow as well. Looking forward to seeing comments (negative and positive constructive critisicm). Thanks for reading
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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2010, 06:50:14 AM »

Just one thing i need to say, WAY TOO MUCH GOLD DEPENDENCY, you'll NEVER get enough gold for this builder and will lose horribly. Otherwise i completely agree with Carnerox
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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2010, 06:54:16 AM »

I can change the numbers, i just need advice on what they should be
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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2010, 09:38:19 AM »

A) Look at other builder suggestions to see what yours should look like
B) Icons help a lot, but don't spam them everywhere
C)Colour code stuff please

Once you do the above, I might read it.
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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2010, 09:39:28 AM »

I already told him that in a PM.
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