Dranei Walls

[MuDDy_PaNDa]

I would like if there could be a bar of mana when u scroll your mouse on it for repairing.
when mana is down HP just drops down in 1 shot and u dont know when its gonna  happen uless u go on wall
i got killed today because of it

[carnerox]

Like a floating bar like health ifso, depends.

[Zen1400]

http://www.dota-utilities.com/2010/03/warcraft-3-manabars.html

meant for dota, but I think it might work for ID.

[CapnMelonHead]

That tool won't help much in Island Defense.
Only really helpful for titan and Dreanei.

[Jumby]

That tool won't help much in Island Defense.
Only really helpful for titan and Dreanei.

Exactly.... it would make it so dreanei wouldnt die while repairing walls

[PoNy]

Doesn't matter thanks you link having mana bars show up is just a better feeling I like it.

[MuDDy_PaNDa]

That tool won't help much in Island Defense.
Only really helpful for titan and Dreanei.

Exactly.... it would make it so dreanei wouldnt die while repairing walls

Only meant for repairing and mana transfer

That tool won't help much in Island Defense.
Only really helpful for titan and Dreanei.

It is suposed to be also for anyone who repairs his walls

[SandStormer]

keep it asis

its nopt hard to know the point where it drops off

[MuDDy_PaNDa]

keep it asis

its nopt hard to know the point where it drops off

yea...
try it without knowing how much mana there is left while repairing
i did die quite a few times as a dran because of it

[RuNm]

All you have to do is double click on a wall and all of them and their basic health and mana levels should pop up so u can see a hurt one, click on its icon and fix it

[MuDDy_PaNDa]

All you have to do is double click on a wall and all of them and their basic health and mana levels should pop up so u can see a hurt one, click on its icon and fix it

its not for putting mana purposes
its for repairing purposes

[SandStormer]

keep it asis

its nopt hard to know the point where it drops off

yea...
try it without knowing how much mana there is left while repairing
i did die quite a few times as a dran because of it

why not just not repair / have someone else lay a wall. if i lay a wall as dran i dont repair (even at mid)

[midboe]

keep it asis

its nopt hard to know the point where it drops off

yea...
try it without knowing how much mana there is left while repairing
i did die quite a few times as a dran because of it

why not just not repair / have someone else lay a wall. if i lay a wall as dran i dont repair (even at mid)

have you been eating nails? repairing makes your wall last like 30% longer dran should not be punished for not being able to see the mana count.

[Coaster_Man]

Draenei walls have very low hp, and since you cannot repair mana (with your builder), repairing them is virtually useless. As you know, the reason why the wall appears to die so fast is because the mana goes to 0/mana shield is gone. So you may be able to keep the hp at 50 instead of 25 when the mana drops off, but the titan is still going to 1/2 hit it after the fact. Best to have someone else wall at mid, and get like 3 people repairing one upged wall.

[midboe]

Draenei walls have very low hp, and since you cannot repair mana (with your builder), repairing them is virtually useless. As you know, the reason why the wall appears to die so fast is because the mana goes to 0/mana shield is gone. So you may be able to keep the hp at 50 instead of 25 when the mana drops off, but the titan is still going to 1/2 hit it after the fact. Best to have someone else wall at mid, and get like 3 people repairing one upged wall.

did u ever use in a base shelters to mana your walls?
looks like not

yes, it seems like they missed the point of draenei.
if you keep giving mana to your walls, their hp will run out before the mana, thus you hav to repair them to keep them from breaking, hope this clears it up coaster_man.

[MuDDy_PaNDa]

Draenei walls have very low hp, and since you cannot repair mana (with your builder), repairing them is virtually useless. As you know, the reason why the wall appears to die so fast is because the mana goes to 0/mana shield is gone. So you may be able to keep the hp at 50 instead of 25 when the mana drops off, but the titan is still going to 1/2 hit it after the fact. Best to have someone else wall at mid, and get like 3 people repairing one upged wall.

did u ever use in a base shelters to mana your walls?
looks like not

yes, it seems like they missed the point of draenei.
if you keep giving mana to your walls, their hp will run out before the mana, thus you hav to repair them to keep them from breaking, hope this clears it up coaster_man.

Thank you for clarifiying even more

[Coaster_Man]

I only use shelters to heal the walls/towers in my base. I rarely use them to heal the walls at mid because it's too much of a hassle to make and destroy constantly, seeing how they lose their mana very quickly. A shelter has a max mana of what, 200? And initial mana of 100? I'm not sure on the numbers but you get my point. Best to get someone else to make walls and pay attention to the mana. It's not that hard.

[MuDDy_PaNDa]

I only use shelters to heal the walls/towers in my base. I rarely use them to heal the walls at mid because it's too much of a hassle to make and destroy constantly, seeing how they lose their mana very quickly. A shelter has a max mana of what, 200? And initial mana of 100? I'm not sure on the numbers but you get my point. Best to get someone else to make walls and pay attention to the mana. It's not that hard.

i was talking about in bases also
Making them at mid sounds dumb

[sickle]

If you want to see mana bars and you're on a PC, just use the link provided up in the thread to the tool that let's you see them?

I'll check later today to see if it works with WINE.

[MuDDy_PaNDa]

http://www.dota-utilities.com/2010/03/warcraft-3-manabars.html

meant for dota, but I think it might work for ID.

If you want to see mana bars and you're on a PC, just use the link provided up in the thread to the tool that let's you see them?

I'll check later today to see if it works with WINE.

Would be nice if you could make it So its default in the game

[GunTroll]

its a 3rd party tool

[KolakCC]

Repairing drae walls is useless: you can only repair 0.5 hp per sec iirc.

[midboe]

Repairing drae walls is useless: you can only repair 0.5 hp per sec iirc.

do we have to explain this again?

[sickle]

Okay, so we have so far come to the realizations that:

• Draenei walls are mana based.
• You must have them selected to see their mana.
• The Mana Bar would be for Titan.
• Implementing Mana Bars would be extremely resource intensive.

Solution: Walls turn red when they have no mana, or under 10/20/30 mana.

What do you guys think?

[carnerox]

Walls should be tinted blue, and the slowly tint blackish when they lose mana.