2.8.6e (Changelog, Download, and Bug Reports)

[sickle]

    
         GENERAL:  
             · Even more reworking for future coding.
             · Added in the -sat command and limited it to 1 satyr.
             · Health Tome stock replenish interval increased to 240 seconds.
             · The titan has now been sleeping for 501 years.
  
          DRAENEI:  
             · The hunter constantly loses mana (you know, since he needs fuel).
             · When his mana reaches 0, his health depletes by 10 HP every second.
             · New builder model! Hurrah!
  
          NATURE:  
             · Ancient of Lore only regains health at night (decreases load time).
  
             Download: Click Me!  
  
   Hopefully the Draenei Hunter has improved from this small update.  He is now powerful near the base, but can not
   last very long outside, far away from a draenei base.

   Seeing as I have no subforum and may not until this picks up, please post bugs you find in this thread.

   I want to make 2.8.7 the next version, so make suggestions or I won't have enough to make a major update.  

[Zen1400]

SAT LIMIT BAD!

Also just send a pm to adam asking for a subsection, I'm sure he'd give you one.

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I'll send him one later, I also need to ask him to load this.

Also, I played about three games today where half the players were satyrs.  The satyr limit is needed.  You can still random more than one satyr, however.

[PaperClip]

· The titan has now been sleeping for 501 years.

Why? :p

Other than that, great version. Got an estimated release date for 2.8.7? Anything big planned? (besides the time traveling titan)

[Zen1400]

Of course everyone is going to pick sat right now. Its like a new hero in dota, everyone rushes for it. Hell its like a new anything, the only difference is that sat has been limited since he came out (practically), and seems cool because of the logic "special = better than others", as more people play sat, he will fade out.

[sickle]

Other than that, great version. Got an estimated release date for 2.8.7? Anything big planned? (besides the time traveling titan)

The time traveling Titan will not be done.  Simply because, as Gwypaas pointed out, I'd have to change half of the game to suddenly stop, rewind, and then get ready to happen again, and get ready for time traveling.  My new idea for a Titan is a titan having to do with nature and such, but that won't happen for a few versions.

Of course everyone is going to pick sat right now. Its like a new hero in dota, everyone rushes for it. Hell its like a new anything, the only difference is that sat has been limited since he came out (practically), and seems cool because of the logic "special = better than others", as more people play sat, he will fade out.

I'm fine with people picking sat, really.  That's why I disagree with how Panda implemented -sat.  -sat in this version is not like -sat in Panda's.  In this one, it is automatically satyr free for all.  The way it works is all the people in the builders force have 2 gold, and satyr cost two gold.  If host says -sat, then everyone's gold is set to 0.  This way satyr will be in most games because no one will be arsed enough to do it.  There should logically be about one of each builder per game.

Also, I'm sorry these aren't big updates.  The reason they aren't is because most of what I'm doing now is trying to code a better future.  I'm also returning to my idea of a Island Defense SC2, called Planetary Defense.  I've already prepared the first builder's buildings and stats and descriptions, and I have a worklist I'm going through, the game is mostly balanced and I don't even have SC2 yet.

[Aflacduck]

Other than that, great version. Got an estimated release date for 2.8.7? Anything big planned? (besides the time traveling titan)

The time traveling Titan will not be done.  Simply because, as Gwypaas pointed out, I'd have to change half of the game to suddenly stop, rewind, and then get ready to happen again, and get ready for time traveling.  My new idea for a Titan is a titan having to do with nature and such, but that won't happen for a few versions.

Of course everyone is going to pick sat right now. Its like a new hero in dota, everyone rushes for it. Hell its like a new anything, the only difference is that sat has been limited since he came out (practically), and seems cool because of the logic "special = better than others", as more people play sat, he will fade out.

I'm fine with people picking sat, really.  That's why I disagree with how Panda implemented -sat.  -sat in this version is not like -sat in Panda's.  In this one, it is automatically satyr free for all.  The way it works is all the people in the builders force have 2 gold, and satyr cost two gold.  If host says -sat, then everyone's gold is set to 0.  This way satyr will be in most games because no one will be arsed enough to do it.  There should logically be about one of each builder per game.

Also, I'm sorry these aren't big updates.  The reason they aren't is because most of what I'm doing now is trying to code a better future.  I'm also returning to my idea of a Island Defense SC2, called Planetary Defense.  I've already prepared the first builder's buildings and stats and descriptions, and I have a worklist I'm going through, the game is mostly balanced and I don't even have SC2 yet.

[Bremetar]

the huge NEW!!!!!!! notification beside the map really caught my attention 

[Uny125]

Ya needa add a -cam command.
w/o cam there are so many more deaths at the mound and i cant play a golder anymore 

[sickle]

Ya needa add a -cam command.
w/o cam there are so many more deaths at the mound and i cant play a golder anymore 

Then you are clearly inept at playing builder.  For a very, very, long time, people lived without -cam at the mound.  I refuse to add uneeded commands, it makes Island Defense look like vamp.

[PaperClip]

Meh, I liked the cam command. Still, it's not hard to play with the normal zoom, I just have to get used to it. >_>

[turbo]

Convinced a person who normally hosts 3.0 to host your version last night.

"Lol wtf no -cam?"
"WTF GOLD ISN'T ON AUTO?"
"LOL This map sucks."

Me and the host laughed at all the crying.

[Alex2315]

You should really get rid of the sat limit

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See, I'd remove the satyr limit, but I really don't want to, and I don't give a shit about what people say about it.  Adding more, in my opinion, would be stupid, because a ton of people would go after it.  More than half of the games of 2.8.6d I played, publics, I mean, we're over two players playing satyr.  It's just obnoxious to have that many.  Builders are already underused, why enforce that with more satyrs?

Also, I'll be adding a more aesthetic -cam and auto-toggled golding.

The nicer -cam will be no hyphen, just Camera 1000 or whatever. 

[Alex2315]

Well the only reason why there was so many sats is cause ppl dont usually get a choice to have more than 1 or even pick him so alot of ppl will pick it at first, but it would die out.

Maybe then people could actually be good with sat and not die right away because they never get to use him.

And whats wrong with 2 satyrs? I wouldnt mind that

Oh and if u were wondering i dont use sat, im just saying for other people who do.

[turbo]

See, I'd remove the satyr limit, but I really don't want to, and I don't give a shit about what people say about it.  Adding more, in my opinion, would be stupid, because a ton of people would go after it.  More than half of the games of 2.8.6d I played, publics, I mean, we're over two players playing satyr.  It's just obnoxious to have that many.  Builders are already underused, why enforce that with more satyrs?

Also, I'll be adding a more aesthetic -cam and auto-toggled golding.

The nicer -cam will be no hyphen, just Camera 1000 or whatever.  

So you conform to noobs bitching about -cam and autogold

but you don't conform when pros are telling you that you don't need a limit on sat.

I'm just saying.

[sickle]

-cam and autogold are not mechanics.

so it doesn't matter if you're 'just saying', those things hardly change the game at all.  Camera is just a preference and autogold just saves you right clicking once.  Satyr changes the course of a game.

[Aflacduck]

See, I'd remove the satyr limit, but I really don't want to, and I don't give a shit about what people say about it.  Adding more, in my opinion, would be stupid, because a ton of people would go after it.  More than half of the games of 2.8.6d I played, publics, I mean, we're over two players playing satyr.  It's just obnoxious to have that many.  Builders are already underused, why enforce that with more satyrs?

Also, I'll be adding a more aesthetic -cam and auto-toggled golding.

The nicer -cam will be no hyphen, just Camera 1000 or whatever.  

So you conform to noobs bitching about -cam and autogold

but you don't conform when pros are telling you that you don't need a limit on sat.

I'm just saying.

I'm just saying that you have no point. He agrees with the -cam and autogold, and disagrees with the sat limit. Who proposed the changes and additions has no weight on the importance of them. PS: "pros" is a bad term to use for a game with absolutely no competitive scene.

[Playerof]

PS: "pros" is a bad term to use for a game with absolutely no competitive scene.

It make people feel special calling them selfs pros
and ya i really like the cam command

[turbo]

  sry