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« Reply #75 on: June 22, 2010, 05:01:53 AM »

I can't click it fast enough so I depend more on pathing abuse.
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« Reply #76 on: June 22, 2010, 07:31:21 AM »

You guys should understand that panda is the baser that cost the more in wood if u want a really good base and for the panda to get like 2 box and every ups it takes alot of gold and the titan shouldnt let people get this much gold so i really dont think panda is overpow..... the escape ability isnt that good... all u need is 1-2 mini and a pearl.
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« Reply #77 on: June 22, 2010, 07:39:21 AM »

2 boxes = 1 standart 90 gold tower and instead of a merchant you need a 20 gold building

escape is really shitty all you need is 2 minions
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« Reply #78 on: June 22, 2010, 09:47:47 AM »

2 boxes = 1 standart 90 gold tower and instead of a merchant you need a 20 gold building

escape is really shitty all you need is 2 minions

Escape isn't shitty, it just isn't OP either.
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« Reply #79 on: June 22, 2010, 10:03:54 AM »

2 boxes = 1 standart 90 gold tower and instead of a merchant you need a 20 gold building

escape is really shitty all you need is 2 minions

Escape isn't shitty, it just isn't OP either.

you are stupid its op.
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« Reply #80 on: June 22, 2010, 07:32:46 PM »

2 boxes = 1 standart 90 gold tower and instead of a merchant you need a 20 gold building

escape is really shitty all you need is 2 minions

Escape isn't shitty, it just isn't OP either.

you are stupid its op.

Explain, or Zen might bite your nose off >.>

People just keep making claims....
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« Reply #81 on: June 22, 2010, 08:10:48 PM »

Explain to me how Panda's escape > teleport. Go.
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« Reply #82 on: June 23, 2010, 12:29:16 AM »

BRING BACK DAROX's PANDA  Angry .... oh wait ....
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« Reply #83 on: June 23, 2010, 12:30:07 AM »

Good thing we don't have annoying as fuck people on the forums. Oh wait..
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« Reply #84 on: June 23, 2010, 12:39:26 AM »

10 posts and I'm a majority, great.
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« Reply #85 on: June 23, 2010, 02:04:09 AM »

i just played an inhouse and the rock panda is fucking retarded
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« Reply #86 on: June 23, 2010, 03:03:55 AM »

i just played an inhouse and the rock panda is fucking retarded

you are stupid its just a morphling with no offensive potential
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« Reply #87 on: June 23, 2010, 03:24:01 AM »

i just played an inhouse and the rock panda is fucking retarded

you are stupid its just a morphling with no offensive potential

Fuck off Guntroll
50% evasion is better than 33% and illnesses are better than critis.

Explain to me how Panda's escape > teleport. Go.

The cooldown and the cast can't be interrupted

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« Reply #88 on: June 23, 2010, 03:43:44 AM »

and since when do you know that?
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« Reply #89 on: June 23, 2010, 03:46:56 AM »

Have you ever been interrupted using it? Thats how he knows.
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« Reply #90 on: June 23, 2010, 10:08:58 AM »

Been wotw'd once, stunned a makrura twice, wotw'd another makrura once.

And I've seen a chain nuke bounce by tele. Was hilarious.
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« Reply #91 on: June 23, 2010, 11:02:07 AM »

i just played an inhouse and the rock panda is fucking retarded

you are stupid its just a morphling with no offensive potential

You're fucking retarded. First off, it's way easier to get Panda upgrades compared to morph upgrades. 50% block is way better then 33% evasion, not to mention morph can't do orc style building.

Also, change worker upgrades. Make it require all 3 forms researched before you can research hp upgrades for workers. 10 gold to be able to get 200 hp 50% resist workers along with the max lumber upgrade is just unbalanced.
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« Reply #92 on: June 23, 2010, 02:01:28 PM »

oh now i c what you are talkiing about.
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« Reply #93 on: June 23, 2010, 06:48:38 PM »

I do believe that Neco has already stated that he is changing the panda....

lets wait it out for now and see what needs fixing
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« Reply #94 on: June 23, 2010, 09:09:05 PM »

Increase gold requirement of the ARC

As Striker said, it's fucking ridiculous how Panda's are suddenly lumberwhores 5 minutes into the game.
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« Reply #95 on: June 23, 2010, 09:39:25 PM »

Increase gold requirement of the ARC

As Striker said, it's fucking ridiculous how Panda's are suddenly lumberwhores 5 minutes into the game.
No shit, that was the first thing I did (increased to 25 gold to match other supporters). I didn't think about the whole "workers with hp early on" but Striker's suggestion seems quite valid and usable. I might take a bit of a look around and see what I can come up with.
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« Reply #96 on: June 23, 2010, 09:41:34 PM »

Wouldn't increasing the gold it needs reduce imbalance?
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« Reply #97 on: June 23, 2010, 09:48:45 PM »

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« Reply #98 on: June 23, 2010, 10:17:30 PM »

You can't really increase the amount for the ARC because it doesn't balance out the upgrades if you're going earth form. It would be fine at 10 gold because all you get is to research the forms, but you also get the lumber upgrades and the hp upgrades as well which makes it a bit OP.

Also, with other supporters ARC isn't as neccessary to get right away. Mag has a few upgrades from it's shrine as well as morph. Panda needs the arc to research earth in the first place to become a supporter.
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« Reply #99 on: June 23, 2010, 10:28:36 PM »

You can't really increase the amount for the ARC because it doesn't balance out the upgrades if you're going earth form. It would be fine at 10 gold because all you get is to research the forms, but you also get the lumber upgrades and the hp upgrades as well which makes it a bit OP.

Also, with other supporters ARC isn't as neccessary to get right away. Mag has a few upgrades from it's shrine as well as morph. Panda needs the arc to research earth in the first place to become a supporter.
I have shuffled everything around with panda so that there is now room for researches in the Tree of Life (RC) for "normal" upgrades. I was thinking of a kind of ogre-like system for upgrading spear towers for example.
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