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« on: May 14, 2010, 01:33:03 PM »

Mini-Guide to Walling and Base Selection



Green: Great bases, base here if not taken.
Red: Decent bases
Yellow: Garbage bases, avoid!

Damage: 1 ~= Low damage potential, 10 ~= High damage potential
Safety: 1 ~= Not safe when rewalling/standing around. 10~ Very safe all the time.
Lumbering:  1 ~= No lumbering, more likely to be nuked. 10 ~= Lot of lumbering and impossible to nuke.
*You dislike my assigned points to each base, but this guide mainly serves as a walling guide.

Top Left Large Base

Top Left Small
Damage: 4
Lumbering:  7
Safety: 8
Special Note:  Damage is low due to the low number of towers that can fit inside this base. Only suitable for Troll, maybe Fairy. This base is a highly viable choice if titan acquires early mini and kills off most of the map. You can pack all the alive builders inside this base in order to deny feed. It is interesting to note that the top left portion of this base can be used as joke base. Rewalling is fairy easy as the high ground offers a lot of sight around your base.

Top Left Small Base

Damage: 8
Lumbering:  8
Safety: 8
Special Note:  Damage potential is high since builders can pack a lot of towers inside this base. Base contains some safe lumbering spot. Initial wall cost is high for this base.

Top Left Forest Base

Damage: 8
Lumbering:  8
Safety: 6
Special Note:  The only negative thing about this base is its lack of high ground. Mini's can easily hide in the forest outside.

Top

Damage: 6
Lumbering:  5
Safety: 4
Special Note: Garbage base, could be the worst on map. DO NOT BASE HERE.

Top Right Large

Damage: 7
Lumbering:  6
Safety: 5
Special Note: Do not base here unless the titan does not have chain nuke. If you lumber with workers, your whole base save for a spot or two can be chain nuked.

Top Right Small
Damage: 5
Lumbering:  6.5
Safety: 7
Special Note: Only suitable for fairy or troll. Decent base, one row walling really stands out.

Right

Damage: 9
Lumbering:  7
Safety: 6
Special Note: Base here! 12 towers can be built on the right that hits titan at the first wall. There is lumber space for 2 builders. Susceptible to nuking, but damage potential is way too high.


Right #2

Damage: 6.5
Lumbering:  6
Safety: 5
Special Note: Garbage base. For some reason, it is a noob favorite. Once a few walls are down, it is difficulty to stay at the front of the base without getting nuked.

Mound Right

Damage: 10
Lumbering:  6
Safety: 6
Special Note: Maximum damage potential. The base is below the map, which grants the titan sight. Base not recommended unless you are double basing.

Mound Top

Damage: 7
Lumbering:  7
Safety: 7
Special Note: Good goblin or troll base. Becomes cramped if you try with any other builder. Can only fit 1 builder. The shelter signify additional optional walls.

Left

Damage: 7.5
Lumbering:  9
Safety: 8
Special Note: Best base on the map. Enough said. Large amount of un-nukable lumber space. Upper wing can fit 3 builders' buildings.

Bottom Right

Damage: 8
Lumbering:  7
Safety: 6.5
Special Note: A tiny bit of un-nukable lumber. Base is susceptible to nuking, but is great for experienced players.

Bottom Left

Damage: 6.5
Lumbering:  6
Safety: 7
Special Note: Too many walls are needed. Base somewhat cramped. Alright base, nothing special.
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« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2010, 03:04:02 PM »

Walls should always be off set. All the bases (maybe not some of the newer ones) are meant to be off set walls.
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2010, 06:25:32 AM »

+1 for misalign

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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2010, 01:36:06 PM »

Thanks for the update. I actually had those pictures but just forgot to upload them. I now realized that my mound top base is way too overwalled...lol
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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2010, 07:32:43 AM »

Your "mound right" base is the best in the game mid left can't compare. Extremely high damage output, great for trapping because titan (unless he has minions outside) can't see top of ramp and see the wall being made. Wall jump central. Lots of room making it a great double base. suited to any baser except tauren.
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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2010, 10:50:23 AM »

i really hate it when people base in the base right over the mound, especcially with gob. there isnt even enough space for fruits how do you want to base there with gob o.O?
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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2010, 01:30:20 PM »

Your "mound right" base is the best in the game mid left can't compare. Extremely high damage output, great for trapping because titan (unless he has minions outside) can't see top of ramp and see the wall being made. Wall jump central. Lots of room making it a great double base. suited to any baser except tauren.

Lies, GTFO learn to play ID
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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2010, 05:30:55 PM »

No reason to call someone a liar. It really is a opinion on which base is the best and also there is enough room for goblin's food sources in the base right of mound and a rarely nuked lumbering spot for his workers making it a good goblin base.

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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2010, 05:58:36 PM »

No reason to call someone a liar. It really is a opinion on which base is the best and also there is enough room for goblin's food sources in the base right of mound and a rarely nuked lumbering spot for his workers making it a good goblin base.

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« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2010, 06:49:59 AM »

Your "mound right" base is the best in the game mid left can't compare. Extremely high damage output, great for trapping because titan (unless he has minions outside) can't see top of ramp and see the wall being made. Wall jump central. Lots of room making it a great double base. suited to any baser except tauren.

Lies, GTFO learn to play ID
ummmmm... Learn to take your own advice more? Mid right is one of the few bases bub can't rape with nukes(mid left gets pwnt), easy base to blink proof, lots of towers, has several non-nukable spots unlike mid left where all non-nukable spots are only non-nukable if you have no workers or titan doesn't have nuke bounce.
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« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2010, 09:46:14 AM »

No reason to call someone a liar. It really is a opinion on which base is the best and also there is enough room for goblin's food sources in the base right of mound and a rarely nuked lumbering spot for his workers making it a good goblin base.

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« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2010, 03:32:21 PM »

Your "mound right" base is the best in the game mid left can't compare. Extremely high damage output, great for trapping because titan (unless he has minions outside) can't see top of ramp and see the wall being made. Wall jump central. Lots of room making it a great double base. suited to any baser except tauren.

Lies, GTFO learn to play ID
ummmmm... Learn to take your own advice more? Mid right is one of the few bases bub can't rape with nukes(mid left gets pwnt), easy base to blink proof, lots of towers, has several non-nukable spots unlike mid left where all non-nukable spots are only non-nukable if you have no workers or titan doesn't have nuke bounce.

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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2010, 10:40:49 AM »

Energy Spire base
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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2010, 03:25:18 AM »

No reason to call someone a liar. It really is a opinion on which base is the best and also there is enough room for goblin's food sources in the base right of mound and a rarely nuked lumbering spot for his workers making it a good goblin base.

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« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2010, 04:39:50 AM »

No reason to call someone a liar. It really is a opinion on which base is the best and also there is enough room for goblin's food sources in the base right of mound and a rarely nuked lumbering spot for his workers making it a good goblin base.

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Also mound top base is only good if dual basing?! It nerly doesn't have space for 1 person.
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« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2010, 04:56:20 AM »

No. Your quote pyramids are GAY
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« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2010, 09:49:27 PM »

There is no point in labeling any base as "best". It is very misleading because every base has certain ups and downs and there is no such thing as a static best base in Island Defense. For example, if you say the far left base is best, I will disagree in many situations because the bottom right base allows for easy worker stacking and is better in that regard.
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« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2010, 10:12:18 PM »

There is no point in labeling any base as "best". It is very misleading because every base has certain ups and downs and there is no such thing as a static best base in Island Defense. For example, if you say the far left base is best, I will disagree in many situations because the bottom right base allows for easy worker stacking and is better in that regard.
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« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2010, 10:36:08 PM »

Mid left use to be flat out best then it got balanced Sad.
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« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2010, 11:04:17 PM »

No reason to call someone a liar. It really is a opinion on which base is the best and also there is enough room for goblin's food sources in the base right of mound and a rarely nuked lumbering spot for his workers making it a good goblin base.

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Also mound top base is only good if dual basing?! It nerly doesn't have space for 1 person.
Nah its best for solo basing cuz theres very little space there
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« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2010, 09:47:54 AM »

np
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« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2010, 10:02:02 AM »

You failed to mention that Mound Right is referred to as the Uterus or Armed base.

You need to mention the 'cage' strategy for bottom right where one builds two walls near the nuke point to stop titan from nuking.  It doesn't work against bub, or I think Foss, but it's pretty nice.  If you don't know what I'm talking about, I'll screen it.

But, thumbs up, you've walled correctly as far as I can see in every base, unlike me last night.
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« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2012, 06:56:32 PM »

No reason to call someone a liar. It really is a opinion on which base is the best and also there is enough room for goblin's food sources in the base right of mound and a rarely nuked lumbering spot for his workers making it a good goblin base.

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