Hammer and Sickle! New Changes!

[Northwind]

I'd probably like it more if it switched between its two forms instead of just having two seperate units.

[13eetle13omber]

I'd probably like it more if it switched between its two forms instead of just having two seperate units.

=/ But then it becomes morphling and isn't the same HnS =[

@cool  

[Undead.Cow]

I'd probably like it more if it switched between its two forms instead of just having two seperate units.

=/ But then it becomes morphling and isn't the same HnS =[

not a lot of people can control 2 things at once very good.

[13eetle13omber]

I'd probably like it more if it switched between its two forms instead of just having two seperate units.

=/ But then it becomes morphling and isn't the same HnS =[

not a lot of people can control 2 things at once very good.

Hence the "hard" part about it. This way people can learn how to micro more. Not meant to be easy. Meant to be harder, and more challenging. For those who, can/want to learn how to, micro.

[fidey]

I'd probably like it more if it switched between its two forms instead of just having two seperate units.

=/ But then it becomes morphling and isn't the same HnS =[

not a lot of people can control 2 things at once very good.

That's like saying not a lot of people can manage a Titan with an inadequet(howdospell) nuke, burrow, and no spell heal.


Oh fuck.

[13eetle13omber]

I'd probably like it more if it switched between its two forms instead of just having two seperate units.

=/ But then it becomes morphling and isn't the same HnS =[

not a lot of people can control 2 things at once very good.

That's like saying not a lot of people can manage a Titan with an inadequet(howdospell) nuke, burrow, and no spell heal.


Oh fuck.

Burrow is his heal dum dum


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anyone have any suggestions on what to change in mah idea?

[13eetle13omber]

I think it's complete any1 have any other ideas past this?

[Multiaccer]

I still like this builder 

[13eetle13omber]

me too

I think it's complete as far as I know what to do with it. Time to sit back and hope it's added into Island Defense in the future. I'll probably think of something down the road and add it in but still open to ideas.

[Sushi5000]

Seem a bit too complicated and alot of coding : /

[Cruncher]

I'd probably like it more if it switched between its two forms instead of just having two seperate units.

I'm loling so hard.

Neco IS afraid of change
hes afraid of having a different type of builder
He wants it to be like morph because then it'd be easier for him...

He did the same thing with beetle's last builder.
Plus for some reason he hates beetle too.
and honestly I think neco hates me too
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Sounds cool.
But honestly i wouldn't care much for sickle and have him sit in back of base while i focus on hammer the whole time.

[PaperClip]

1. Neco isn't editor anymore
2. Everyone hates you.
3. You want a builder with two forms and then you admit you would only use one? Way to make a point, faggot.

[Cruncher]

1. Neco isn't editor anymore
2. Everyone hates you.
3. You want a builder with two forms and then you admit you would only use one? Way to make a point, faggot.

1. found that out today
2. your point?
3. i wasnt making a point

[turbo]

I don't know how you all could read that x.X

Beetle, could you clean that up a bit more please? Maybe alternating text sizes and whatnot?

[carnerox]

I didn't bother to read this all, could some one summerize it all for me.

[Cruncher]

I didn't bother to read this all, could some one summerize it all for me.

i cut it down as much as i could

Hammer: Can repair, Can't lumber, Golds at half the rate of normal builder
Model: Siege engine
HP: 300 Regeneration: normal builder

Escapes:
Rotating turret: All titans/minions within a range of 250 are knocked back a range of 300 every 2 seconds. Lasts 10 seconds. CD is 180 seconds.

Overdrive: Hammer moves 100% faster, but can not attack, regenerate HP, or build durning this time. Lasts 10 seconds. CD is 90 seconds.


Instead of workers H n' S have production methods. This building produces 115 lumber every 60 seconds. There can only be a max of 10 Manufacture Plants.

Wall

Upgraded Wall:Requires Energy plant

Energy Plant
6x6
The Energy Plant can carry one of the builders inside of it. As long as Hammer or Sickle is inside the Energy Plant will provide: 150 food, and a steady income of 200 lumber every 45 seconds. There can only be one Energy Plant.
Has stuff like: incruease manufacture lumber rate and tower upgrades? right?

ARC
35 gold
4x4
800 range
200 seige dmg with 100% splash in 200 AOE
Special tower upgrades?
More special tower upgrades?
more manufacture rate

Super ARC
more dmg more splash
air raid sirens aura:nearby buildings get 200 attack range and 10% damage units get 15% movment speed and 15 armor?

Hidden arms dealer
45 gold 150 lumber
Buy units here like

Scout:20 gold 8 food
True sight in 500 AOE

Mage:15 gold 12 food
Healing wards
Gust
Blink
Earthquake=tk move(100 damage to buildings and 40% slow to all units...)


Sickle: Can repair, Can't lumber, Golds at half the rate of normal builder

Escapes:
Force Shot: Fires a single shot that knocks the first enemy it hits back a max range of 900. If the enemy hits a solid object it is stunned for 3 seconds, if the "object" is another enemy, both are stunned for 3 seconds. 120 second CD.

Sand: Permanently turns a patch of ground into sand. Any enemy who walks on the sand will be slowed by 15% of MS. If Hammer or Sickle (or another player with hammer and sickle) walks on the sand they gain 2HP/second regeneration bonus and 10% ms bonus. a.o.e. 400. 45 second CD.

Wall (sickle):
-5 armor
this wall gains 12 armor when sickle is in a range of 250 (not hammer)

Upgraded Wall(sickle
5 armor
this wall gains 12 armor when sickle is in a range of 250 (not hammer)

ARC(Sickle)
Hail Fire: Gives the hunter Hail Fire.

Scouter: Gives the hunter the Deploy Scout ability.

Adv. Hunter Training: Gives the hunter the Last Hope Squad. Last Hope Squad destroys the hunter and in it's place spawns: 3 Hand to Hand Combat Personnel, 4 Marksmen, and 1 Scout. These units do not cost food but only last for 17 seconds. The Hunter also gains 200 hp and 200 mp.

Massive Recoil: Any unit that hits sickle will take 500% of their attack back (doesn't apply to Hammer).

Banner of War: Sickle and the Hunter gain the aura, Banner of War, which gives nearby units 8% damage, 2 Armor, and 2hp/second bonus regeneration to hp.

Spoils of War: Allows sickle to pick up any item (including titan items) however they may not be sold.

Many towers later...

Flying Hunter with two attacks.

[supapie]

Good idea but....ITS COMPLACATED AND COFUSING 

Or at least to me

[13eetle13omber]

lol couldn't get on for a while and then mass posts :O

**gimmi 4 days and I make a Hn'S for retards version (shorter)**
^--------- and I make that clearer =]

Neco not editor anymore? Who is? ._.

[Cruncher]

lol couldn't get on for a while and then mass posts :O

**gimmi 4 days and I make a Hn'S for retards version (shorter)**
^--------- and I make that clearer =]

Neco not editor anymore? Who is? ._.

Carn

[13eetle13omber]

lol couldn't get on for a while and then mass posts :O

**gimmi 4 days and I make a Hn'S for retards version (shorter)**
^--------- and I make that clearer =]

Neco not editor anymore? Who is? ._.

Carn

TY

ALSO!! Retard version complete and posted AND CUZ IM SO NICE I fixed this one up. If you had problems reading go read retard version or reread this one.

[Zen1400]

No, you don't need 2 topics.

[13eetle13omber]

No, you don't need 2 topics.

...ok then

Any1 else have anything to say on topic?

[13eetle13omber]

Sorry for double post but I posted this on another id site and got new suggestions to make new changes. Here they are. Will repost new changes whenever there are new changes.