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« on: May 05, 2010, 11:49:41 AM » |
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I personally think the puppetteer is too overpowered, the demonologist requires 15g to have even a chance to kill a minion (which is entirely his role in ID except maybe extra base dps) while the puppetteer can solo a minion without any gold at all, does anyone else find this unfair?
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Chipmunk
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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2010, 12:02:37 PM » |
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15g? All that will get you is overlord and an ARC spell. I think you mean 20g.
And demo can solo mini with no gold.
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2010, 12:10:39 PM » |
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gnoll can solo main titans with fruit tree bases.
tbh i never played pupatear imo its just another very stupid addition to island defense.
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FlashMasterZ
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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2010, 01:13:13 PM » |
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er.. 20g yeah thats what i meant
and i know its technically possible to solo main with fruit trees, but what i'm saying is, the demonologist has difficulty soloing mini's even with gold, while the puppetteer does it with ease without any, it just seems a bit unfair to me
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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2010, 02:23:51 PM » |
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is puppeter even finished?
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FlashMasterZ
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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2010, 06:34:43 PM » |
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i'm not saying nerf him a lot, just enuff so he's balanced a bit more, he's really overpowered early game, maybe just make him gold at least a little bit (like demo) before he can kill a mini solo, make bloodlust cost 5-10g maybe?
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« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2010, 01:12:40 AM » |
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Yeah, a puppet with bloodlust and mirror image can own any early mini before titan even notices it. I think making it cost some gold to be on the same lvl as demo is a good idea.
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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2010, 11:38:49 PM » |
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Yeah, i'm not saying make him fail or anything, i'm just requesting that he's balanced with the demo, maybe be a bit more powerful early game and a bit less late game, so he's not the same as demo, and make him a bit less gold dependent for mini killing, that way he needs a bit of gold, but not a lot, though he cannot become as powerful as the demo, who needs a lot more gold to do that, that way puppet = early mini killer and demo = late game, or something? idk
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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2010, 10:49:35 AM » |
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Puppeteer is terrible. It should just be removed from the game Oh, by the way, the Puppet has no disabler or poison Yeah, a puppet with bloodlust and mirror image can own any early mini before titan even notices it. I think making it cost some gold to be on the same lvl as demo is a good idea.
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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2010, 02:19:14 PM » |
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Well if Titan has 0 micro. Puppet reigns supreme. The fact remains that Puppet is the worst supported in the game. He can't base either.
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« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2010, 04:50:53 PM » |
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I personally think the puppetteer is too overpowered, the demonologist requires 15g to have even a chance to kill a minion (which is entirely his role in ID except maybe extra base dps) while the puppetteer can solo a minion without any gold at all, does anyone else find this unfair?
It is try puppet is over powered with only around 1500 lumber needed to rape minis D: |
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« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2010, 09:24:04 AM » |
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Umm there's one fail safe way to make a puppet 100% useless just walk away from it, dont matter what skills he got minions will always escape from him. Heck even if you get wall trapped all the minion needs to do is WW when the puppet goes berserk and wait.
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« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2010, 02:52:01 PM » |
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Hes not op cause if the titan is smart , he will make mini run away and puppet wont kill , demo can box the mini in and he got scorpions slow poison
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« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2010, 07:18:02 AM » |
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I like puppet, but think he needs a rework. If Neco wants, cuz he hates pup, I could work with him and post my ideas for the rework of it. Just an idea. Hes not op cause if the titan is smart , he will make mini run away and puppet wont kill , demo can box the mini in and he got scorpions slow poison
Umm there's one fail safe way to make a puppet 100% useless just walk away from it, dont matter what skills he got minions will always escape from him. Heck even if you get wall trapped all the minion needs to do is WW when the puppet goes berserk and wait.
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« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2010, 08:02:31 AM » |
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Scorpions on Demo still need a poison or MS upgrade, the mini can outrun them even without any buffs.
Oh and the problem with killing minions is yes, they can run. That's why traps worked so well. Because they couldn't run.
And stop using biased opinions in your posts please, everyone. Your theoretical builders are apparently the best of the best and the Titan can't notice his minimap nor the voice screaming that his shit be under attack.
So excellent if you managed to display your skill against a downer.
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« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2010, 10:00:19 PM » |
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I personally think the puppetteer is too overpowered, the demonologist requires 15g to have even a chance to kill a minion (which is entirely his role in ID except maybe extra base dps) while the puppetteer can solo a minion without any gold at all, does anyone else find this unfair?
JK, I'm not that kind of guy. IMO, pupeteer doesn't need a nerf, not at all, maybe a slight buff, but that's it. He really needs more abilities and tech for more Diversity and play style Your momma jokes are so old they aren't even funny.
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« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2010, 03:17:10 AM » |
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i think he need some nerf and some buff
give him more upgrades cuz puppet is godly strong on the first part but then he can't do much with gold except the lifesteal
and a hp upgrade
give gold to the blood lust and give him more researhes
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