13eetle13omber
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Hammer and Sickle -Builders Suggestions
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« on: April 29, 2010, 07:10:41 AM » |
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First of all no hate replys plz. Make them constructive. People bitch all the time they don't like arach. I am one of them. He isn't all that original. Then i thought well it's hard to make something original because most builders are either: baser, support, or hunter or a combination of two or more. I created a builder that can not minion hunter, can not base, can not do anything except make bases a bitch to break. I know very very few of you will read this all but i suggest you do. I put a LOT of work into this. I give you, the builder of dimensions:
This builder has come to this world to silence an everlasting war. He does not believe in fighting but he believes there are worse things; like watching the builders suffer. He has mastered the art of the many dimensions. He will use this mastery to aid the builders in their quest.
Class: Hard MS: Very fast Model Crow (druid of talons animal form) HP: 600 Inventory slots: 1 Armor: 2 medium This builder doesn’t wish to fight. He has no attack and can’t repair or lumber himself. This builder takes double damage from magic. A.K.A. nukes.
Escape(1): This builder opens a portal at the target location. The builder can go through the portal and come out at the other one. Max of two portals Last forever unless killed or another one past max is summoned.
HP: 500 Armor: 5 fortified CD: 30seconds on first, then an increase of 10 seconds every time it is used Model: Portal The titan gets 5 gold for killing a portal
Escape(2): The builder uses his mastery to remove target from the dimension Lasts 4 seconds. Works on enemies, allies, and buildings. CD is 120 seconds
Build style: Undead This builder has no attack so instead uses his mastery of the dimensions to dimensionally remove his unneeded buildings. He has unsummon, drains 100hp a second and gains back 50% of Lumber 0% of gold.
Buildings: Shelter: Model: Tomb of Relic Size: 2x2 Cost: 10 Time: builds in 1 second HP/armor: 200hp, 5fort armor. Uses: builds workers, provides 150 food, and can serve as lumber return spot. Titan gets: 1 gold
Workers: Food: 8 MS: slow Model: stag HP/armor: 100hp, 0medium armor Gets 1 lumber per hit and can carry 20 at a time. This worker has permanent invisibility.
Wall: Model Necropolis Size: 2x2 Cost: 1 food Time: builds in 1 second HP/armor: 50hp 50fort armor Uses: blocks the titan for a short time. Blocks 1-3 attacks for most part. Titan gets: 1 gold
Upgraded wall: Model: Black Citadel Size: 2x2 Cost: 500lumbder and still costs 1 food Time: upgrades in 2.5 seconds HP/armor: 600hp 10fort armor Mana: 2, no regen Uses: blocks the titan for a short time. Can cast heal in a range of 100. Heals target for 5hp mana cost 1. Titan gets: 2 gold
Research Center: Model: Arcane vault Size: 4x4 Cost: 1000lumber Time: builds in 5 seconds HP/armor: 300hp 5fort armor Titan gets: 5 gold Researches: Turtle scales HP ups Anti magic shield: the builder can cast an ams that lasts for 5 seconds on enemies or 15 seconds on allies/self. CD of 45 seconds. 15G 500L. Shifting dimensions: the builder stuns target for 1.5 seconds and reduces armor by 100% of base armor for 3 seconds (wont fuck over glac). CD of 90 seconds. 35G 2000L. Requires arc to get. Phase shift: moves out of the dimension for 1 second. When leaving the dimension he takes thee time to heal and gains 50hp. CD of 15 seconds. 5G 1000L Dimensions Collapse: The dimensions collapse around the builder. This causes nearby enemies to take 30damage/second and have attack speed reduced by 10% and movement speed reduced by 10% in an area of 500. 20G 3000L. requires merchant and shifting dimensions. Revive hunter.
Merchant: Model: merchant Size: 4x4 Cost: 45G 150L Time: builds in 5 seconds HP/armor: 300hp 5fort armor Uses: Buy summons and required for some ups and advanced research center. THE BUILDER CANT USE SUMMONS Titan gets: 3 gold
ARC: Model: Druid of Talon Size: 1x1 ARC IS A UNIT Cost: 45G 1000L Time: builds in .5 seconds HP/armor/ms: 500hp 0medium armor, very slow. Uses: researches upgrades for builder and is a requirement for some things Titan gets: 10 gold Dimension’s manipulation: The builder gains 200hp and 3 armor. 15G 300L Ripples of the dimension: The builder gains truesight in an area of 100 around him. 30G 1500L Healing power of the dimensions: The builder creates a ring of healing wards around him at a range of 600. These healing wards heal nearby enemys and allies by 1%max hp, without stacking. They block as if they were buildings and last 15 seconds. 60second CD 5G 200L. Super weapon: Allows the hunter to use his main cannon spell. 40G 3000L. Outer World Tech: Walls gain 150hp and 3 mana. Poison Plates: Every unit that attacks an upgraded wall loses .25% ms and as, stacking, for 60 seconds. Stacks. 15G 4000L. Summon Hunter: Summons hunter, 180 second channeling. Costs 45G and 2000L. No refunds if stopped.
Ultimate Tower(1): The builder makes the only offensive building he will allow. Model: Boneyard Size: 2x2 Cost: 90G 2000L. Time: builds in 2 seconds HP/Armor: 1000hp 10fort armor Titan gets: 5 gold Attack: 35 chaos A. Speed: fast, can attack wards Range: 1200 There is a 33% chance to activate one of the following: 1) 25% chance for 1 second stun 2) 25% chance for 3 second silence 3) 25% chance to cast 2 second curse 4) 25% chance for 4x critical hit Can be transmuted. When item it gives: 10% evasion, 15% spell resistance, 1.5x crit chance of 25% and 12%ms bonus.
Hunter: Flying hunter! Names: Flying Fortress, Big Floaty Thingy, Yamato, Air Wall, Dreadnought Model: Castle Size: 6x6 Abilities: This hunter has 2 separate attacks that can hit multiple targets or all focus on one. Attribute bonus. Avatar (gets at level5). Mana Burn for 125 Main Cannon: The hunter fires its main cannon for 200damage and 2second stun at a range of 1700. 180 second CD. Titan gets: 45
Base stats for Hunter (without attribute points): HP: 500 Range: 500 Armor: 0fort armor Attack damage: 10 chaos
Attributes: Strength: 30 gains 7 a level Agility: 60 –main attribute gains 10 a level Intelligence: 0
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Northwind
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2010, 04:01:26 PM » |
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There is a "Builders" section for a reason.
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13eetle13omber
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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2010, 06:50:27 AM » |
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There is a "Builders" section for a reason.
new to site... didn't see that... And here's an idea, for once, say something about my idea?
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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2010, 09:17:39 AM » |
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There is a "Builders" section for a reason.
new to site... didn't see that... And here's an idea, for once, say something about my idea? agreed. who gives a shit about the builders section, this forum isn't moderated anyways don't be a prick neco
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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2010, 02:54:58 PM » |
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I only read the first paragraph because I read this... "600hp with 7 medium armor". Just no, I don't care if he does take additional damage from nukes thats just overpowered for so early in the game.
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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2010, 03:05:16 PM » |
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I only read the first paragraph because I read this... "600hp with 7 medium armor". Just no, I don't care if he does take additional damage from nukes thats just overpowered for so early in the game.
lol funny
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13eetle13omber
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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2010, 06:56:20 AM » |
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I only read the first paragraph because I read this... "600hp with 7 medium armor". Just no, I don't care if he does take additional damage from nukes thats just overpowered for so early in the game.
... and how is that so over powered? Its not like he can attack... My thoughts were: hmmm double nuke damage, double hp. Maybe change instead of 600hp, give it like 450? and instead of double nuke damage, a bonus 50% damage from nukes?
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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2010, 07:07:17 PM » |
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There is a "Builders" section for a reason.
You can move threads right? why not just move it for him since you're taking the time to tell him about the builders section? don't mean to get on your bad side or anything, but it just seemed like the logical thing to do
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I once got one-shot by a speed turtle
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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2010, 09:33:47 PM » |
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I just got moderation status so yeah... moved.
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Vloei
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« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2010, 11:48:51 AM » |
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Neco keeps on hating on the good ideas.
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13eetle13omber
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« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2010, 07:31:27 AM » |
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Removing stupid arguing on both sides to clean up idea.
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« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2010, 01:53:44 PM » |
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If someone proposed Morphling right now, everyone would start bashing the OP.
Think about it, minimal gold for Slam, Shockwave, 16 armor, and evasion. 50 workers, workers in tower? Beast mode? All crazy ideas if you think about.
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« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2010, 03:34:07 PM » |
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Morphling does not start with 600hp and 7 medium armor.
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13eetle13omber
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« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2010, 12:43:55 AM » |
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Removing stupid arguing on both sides to clean up idea. Suggest deleting these posts.
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« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2010, 02:40:53 PM » |
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Removing stupid arguing on both sides to clean up idea. Suggest deleteing these posts.
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« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2010, 04:37:12 PM » |
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The harvesters are super useless. You don't even have all your buildings or specs for them laid out. How big is your portal? What makes food?
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13eetle13omber
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« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2010, 04:52:22 PM » |
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The harvesters are super useless. You don't even have all your buildings or specs for them laid out. How big is your portal? What makes food?
How are workers "super useless" clarify plz? What do ya mean "You don't even have all your buildings or specs for them laid out"? Whats missing? Portal is a summoned unit, 2x2 doesn't need to be on solid ground. Shelter provides 150 food. Ok. Tell me this now you said after 15 gold he doesn't need to worry about nukes anymore. How is that? If those people actually moved their flying hunter back while titan sieged every time he moved they were trying to hard to be too good. True as tower it is garbage but thats why no1 really uses it as one. Ok so show me some good number that you want. Are you saying you don't like my model?
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« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2010, 05:46:58 PM » |
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Removing stupid arguing on both sides to clean up idea. Suggest deleteing these posts.
<(o_O)> oh great people can talk through me
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« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2010, 05:55:50 PM » |
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Good Numbers: 300 health and 2 medium armor. Good Change: Ability to attack.
There, your builder isn't horrible now!
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« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2010, 09:04:31 PM » |
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Neco... are you just one of those people afraid of change? Every builder has to be the same for you doesn't it? You can't see what would be new and cool...
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« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2010, 09:50:04 PM » |
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No, its just that there are certain rules of gameplay you must observe. If I said, "Lets make a builder with all his buildings invulnerable!" it would be a change but not one suited to the gameplay. Yours is just too out of normality to be balanced.
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« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2010, 09:52:31 PM » |
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Or they were actually good. Back when IDG was island defense clan, and not whatever the fuck it is today, don't talk unless you played in one of those inhouses.
Lower armor, 4-5, first portal have 30 sec cd, and then increase 5-10 seconds per portal destroyed punishing you for over use. Change second skill, its neat idea, but will completely feed titan, or if you get a titan hunter in while titan is level 2-3, you can probably kill him. Don't allow resources back, maybe wood, but definitely not gold. Shelter costs 10 wood, shouldn't be free. Weaken upgraded walls.
Shifting dimensions: reduce stun to 1-1.5, change armor decrease to percent of armor. 50%, otherwise it completely fucks glacious, and no one else anywhere near as much. Phase shift: increase cooldown to 15, and increase heal to 50-100. Dimensions Collapse: assume this costs mana, and decrease damage to about 30
Allowing arc to move is pretty bs, if it can move make it very slow and not spell immune. Healing wards pretty useless, besides for blocking titan and yourself, but you are healing him. Posion plate is broken, make it deal a stacking poison of .25 that lasts 60 seconds, won't do much at first, but as he continually sieges will add up. Don't allow it to kill.
Nerf ultimate tower 1 to 25% of the time he will do one of those options with the same chance. Remove ultimate tower 2, you should never get that much gold, change how titan hunter it summoned. Nerf main cannon and hunter range, along with health and stats. Nerf mana burn to 100 with lower cooldown.
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13eetle13omber
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« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2010, 11:06:19 PM » |
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No, its just that there are certain rules of gameplay you must observe. If I said, "Lets make a builder with all his buildings invulnerable!" it would be a change but not one suited to the gameplay. Yours is just too out of normality to be balanced.
And how? I agree'd to 450hp and 150% damage from nukes, for those who don't nuke but with nuke that brings his ass right back to 300? how is it so hard to except him? maybe take away the armor to make him more "fair"? Mine isn't too out of normality to be balanced. You just don't see how easy it is to counter him. =[
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« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2010, 12:22:25 AM » |
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Ok zen just about everything you said should be done, is done.
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« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2010, 02:32:45 PM » |
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What?
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