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« on: April 24, 2010, 04:28:13 PM »

Before you even read this let me say I am not happy that I have to redo this whole thing.Curse you panda.

<- This guy w/o the rider
Cavernous
Titan of the Caves

Stats

Main Attribute:
STR:42
AGI:47
INT:39
Damage:103
    Type:Hero
Armor:7
    Type:Hero
Movement Speed:290
Attack Speed:Average/Fast


Skills

Echolocation - Innate
    Cavernous has the ability to track down targets using his ears.pings the map for all builders in 1500 Aoe of him. 100 Mana, 45 second cooldown, auto-targetting.

Dig - Windwalk
    Cavernous dig a mound into the earth giving him invisibility for 30 seconds.Moving makes him exit his hole and gives him +20 armor for 20 seconds losing 1 armor per second. 100 second cooldown,  auto-targetting.

Blood-Bath - Heal
    Creates an area of 200/300 AOE on the ground.So long as cavernous is in this area him and his minions gain 40/60/80/100 health per second.Lasts 10 seconds. 190 Mana, 25 second cooldown, ground-targetting.

Stalagmites - Nuke
    Lays out spikes in 300/400 range doing 60/70/80/90 damage.These then return to him doing 50/60/70/80 damage. 140 Mana, 19 second cooldown, unit-targetting.

Night-Dweller - Passive
    The Titan gains 7/12/17/22% Movement speed,gains 20/20/25/25% attack speed, and +50/75/100/100 sight range at Night. Passive.

Infectious Bite - Passive(innate)
    Cavernous has a naturally poisonous bite that slows units by 10% for 5 seconds. Passive.

Hightened Senses - Ultimate(Level 13)
    Cavernous's night senses increase.He has +8% movement speed/+7% attack speed/+50 sight at night. Plus his bite slows for another 4 seconds Mana cost, cooldown, type of targetting.

Minions
Batty,Scares,Dark Flight,Chupcabat,Blood-Sucker,Blind.

Stalagtite - Nuke
    Spikes fall from the sky doing 50/60/70/80 damage then 40/50/60/70 damage back to it. 120 Mana,17 second cooldown, unit-targetting.

Underwater Spring - Heal
    The minion digs into the ground to drink refreshing water to heal 300/400/500/600 health.If Windwalked this adds +200 health. 120 Mana, 13 second cooldown, auto-targetting.

Bat-Riders - Minis
    Raises a flying Bat-rider from a corpse. 75 Mana, 10 second cooldown, corpse-targetting.

200 Hp.25 damage.350 movement speed.Limit of 5

Tunnel - Wind Walk
    The minion tunnels beneath the earth for 6 seconds. 120 Mana, 160 second cooldown, auto-targetting.

Collapse - Ultimate
    Reduces armor of all buildings in 700 AOE by 8 and deals 250 Damage to units. 200 Mana, 200 second cooldown, auto-targetting.
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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2010, 08:06:11 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2010, 02:56:30 AM »

As long as these units stay on the ground I don't mind the models

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Echolocation has some issues with there being only one or two builders left.
Change Echolocation from pinging the closest builder to reveals invisible units in [very wide] range.

WW's don't require mana anymore.

Your cooldown for the nuke and heal are way too long. Other nukes have 8 second cooldowns, and I'm not sure about heal.

Night Dweller L4 + Webbed Feet + High natural MS = Faster than anything without an item or buff. Not sure about the speed turtle.

Poison is low, is that to account for the MS being high or human error?

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The heal increase from WW is useless. +150 up would made it more viable to actually waste WW on healing.

Damaging buildings is imbalanced. Come up with a new ultimate because you can destroy a base from the outside in.
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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2010, 05:37:37 PM »

As long as these units stay on the ground I don't mind the models

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Echolocation has some issues with there being only one or two builders left.
Change Echolocation from pinging the closest builder to reveals invisible units in [very wide] range.
yeah i see the problem there

WW's don't require mana anymore.
had'nt noticed...

Your cooldown for the nuke and heal are way too long. Other nukes have 8 second cooldowns, and I'm not sure about heal.
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Night Dweller L4 + Webbed Feet + High natural MS = Faster than anything without an item or buff. Not sure about the speed turtle.
made him slightly slower

Poison is low, is that to account for the MS being high or human error?
yes it is to account for fast ms
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The heal increase from WW is useless. +150 up would made it more viable to actually waste WW on healing.
Buffed it

Damaging buildings is imbalanced. Come up with a new ultimate because you can destroy a base from the outside in.
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« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2010, 06:51:41 PM »

Collapse - Ultimate

Reduces armor of all buildings in 700 AOE by 8 and deals 250 Damage to units. 200 Mana, 200 second cooldown, auto-targetting.


The range of the 250 DMG Nuke should be 600 and the range of the armor reduction should be 500. Something like that. Oh and you failed to mention a duration of the armor reduction? Something over 10 and under 20 would be nice o;

I suggest armor reduction should be something lower like 4 but stackable.

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« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2010, 06:52:50 PM »

GG.. Master of bad titan/builder suggestions.
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« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2010, 06:56:31 PM »

GG.. Master of bad titan/builder suggestions.

This is good.
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« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2010, 03:31:21 PM »

Is it only me or does it seems like his ulti is nothing compared to his other nigth skill? Isn't an ulti supposed to be better then all other skills? That's why it's called ulti?
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« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2010, 05:44:26 PM »

GG.. Master of bad titan/builder suggestions.

love you too buddy

and btw i have'nt made any builder suggestions yet on this forum
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« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2010, 06:51:08 PM »

GG.. Master of bad titan/builder suggestions.

love you too buddy

and btw i have'nt made any builder suggestions yet on this forum
yet tho.
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« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2010, 10:23:29 PM »

Is it only me or does it seems like his ulti is nothing compared to his other nigth skill? Isn't an ulti supposed to be better then all other skills? That's why it's called ulti?

Magmide sucks

But yes an ultimate is supposed to be a trump card of sorts
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« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2010, 06:02:51 AM »

GG.. Master of bad titan/builder suggestions.

love you too buddy

and btw i have'nt made any builder suggestions yet on this forum
yet tho.

Who are you again?
dont remember you....
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« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2010, 07:35:51 AM »

Not this shit again

Brace yourselves for 17 more titans slightly different from this one
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« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2010, 01:11:45 PM »

GG.. Master of bad titan/builder suggestions.

love you too buddy

and btw i have'nt made any builder suggestions yet on this forum
yet tho.

Who are you again?
dont remember you....
A cow.
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« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2010, 03:53:28 PM »

would you happen to be an undead cow?

hey long time no see  Grin
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« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2010, 05:23:23 PM »

would you happen to be an undead cow?

hey long time no see  Grin
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« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2010, 03:08:28 AM »

Is it only me or does it seems like his ulti is nothing compared to his other nigth skill? Isn't an ulti supposed to be better then all other skills? That's why it's called ulti?

Magmide sucks

But yes an ultimate is supposed to be a trump card of sorts
magmide is great =], it's abb to glitch into 1x1 spots is just....
It's not very op but it will atleast kill some towers.
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« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2010, 03:39:40 AM »

Is it only me or does it seems like his ulti is nothing compared to his other nigth skill? Isn't an ulti supposed to be better then all other skills? That's why it's called ulti?

Magmide sucks

But yes an ultimate is supposed to be a trump card of sorts
magmide is great =], it's abb to glitch into 1x1 spots is just....
It's not very op but it will atleast kill some towers.

If the builder is bad

Oh wait.
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« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2010, 11:06:49 AM »

Not this shit again

Brace yourselves for 17 more titans slightly different from this one

You'd expect that wouldn't you...

Too bad. Shocked
I'm actually combining ideas from each of my last 8 titans into 3. Cheesy Grin  Smiley

Is it only me or does it seems like his ulti is nothing compared to his other nigth skill? Isn't an ulti supposed to be better then all other skills? That's why it's called ulti?

Foss's ult is much of an ult now is it?
Plus volt's ult is pretty suckish too if you bped
And I could argue bloodlust is better than bub's ult if i wanted
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« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2010, 09:30:50 PM »

You do know Bubonicus' ultimate prevents a builder from rewalling buffing debuffing and can't be removed from detonate right?
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« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2010, 11:53:22 AM »

You do know Bubonicus' ultimate prevents a builder from rewalling buffing debuffing and can't be removed from detonate right?
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